Episode 53: Reply All And Mike Pesca And Smith College And Race And Race And Race

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Katie Herzog and Jesse Singal

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🗓️ 27 February 2021

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

The liberal landscape is littered with race-related meltdowns. After a correction and an update to last week's Reply All episode, Katie and Jesse discuss Mike Pesca's suspension from Slate and a long, infuriating article in the New York Times about false accusations at Smith College.

Reply All’s “The Confetti Cannon” episode:
https://gimletmedia.com/shows/reply-all/dvh64g

The other side of the argument that Reply All got more political:
https://www.reddit.com/r/replyallpodcast/comments/ju3ly4/hot_take_reply_all_is_not_getting_more_political/gca58cv?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

Fresh Air on the nature of the protest:
https://www.npr.org/2021/02/25/971319812/reporters-video-from-inside-senate-on-jan-6-shows-a-crowd-prepared-for-violence

NY Times on Deadspin’s implosion: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/31/business/media/deadspin-was-a-good-website.html

Defector’s story on Mike Pesca:
https://defector.com/mike-pesca-slate-suspended/

NY Times on Pesca:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/22/business/media/slate-mike-pesca-suspended.html

“Eschew the Taboo: The pernicious effects of banning words” by Christopher Hitchens:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2006/12/hatred-will-always-outpace-linguistic-correctness.html

Ta-Nehisi Coates on use/mention:
https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2010/11/to-conversate/66929/

John McWhorter on use/mention:
https://johnmcwhorter.substack.com/p/the-n-word-as-slur-vs-the-n-word

Margaret Sullivan with a confusing column:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/mike-pesca-donald-mcneil-n-word-media/2021/02/24/fe89d010-76a1-11eb-8115-9ad5e9c02117_story.html?itid=ap_margaretsullivan

Stefan Fatsis on this debate in Slate alllllll the way back in 2020:
https://slate.com/culture/2020/07/scrabble-offensive-words-ban-player-reaction.html

The episode of The Gist where Pesca mentions nonbinary pronouns:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/07/acosta-out-emily-bazelon-charged-kamala-harris-gun-laws.html

Michael Powell’s crazy story about Smith College:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/24/us/smith-college-race.html

The ACLU ACLU-ing, hard:
https://www.aclu.org/blog/racial-justice/race-and-criminal-justice/smith-college-overhauls-policing-practices-after-black

Cathy Young on the "Napping Whilte Black" story at Yale, which was significantly more complicated:
https://thebulwark.com/standing-up-to-the-moral-outrage-industry/

Jodi Shaw's latter, as published by Bari Weiss:
https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/whistleblower-at-smith-college-resigns

Katie on disappearing lesbians:
https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/p/where-have-all-the-lesbians-gone-0a7

Glenn Greenwald on his experience "trending as a transphobe and biphobe":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXXJoOsdoNE&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=GlennGreenwald

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0:00.0	Hey, Jesse, how's it going?
0:01.0	Good.
0:02.0	You had a little travel adventurer recently, didn't you?
0:04.1	I did.
0:05.1	I went to beautiful tropical Alaska for three days.
0:08.8	The sunshine state.
0:09.8	Yeah, it was my first vacation, you know, since COVID started and we thought why not go
0:20.5	someplace warm.
0:21.5	So we went to Alaska in February.
0:23.0	This is because your wife's people are from there, right?
0:25.4	Right.
0:26.4	She's from there.
0:27.4	So we went to visit her sister and her sister's new baby.
0:29.3	It's very nice when sort of funny thing happens.
0:33.3	So as soon as we got there, we went to this little bakery and my wife and I were ordering
0:37.7	food and we were dressed like we normally do, which is like, you know, like Seattle chic,
0:42.5	so we basically look like homeless people, lots of like brown denim and things like that.
0:48.2	And this woman, so we ordered our food and this woman came out to us to deliver it and
0:52.6	she said, do you always dress so well when you leave the house?
0:57.8	And we just sort of looked at each other like, wow, this is what constitutes high fashion
1:04.6	in Alaska.
1:05.6	Wow.
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