Episode 52: Reply All Is Melting Down Like Some Sort Of Delectable Queso Dip Appropriated By A White Bon Appetit Editor
Blocked and Reported
Katie Herzog and Jesse Singal
4.6 • 4.1K Ratings
🗓️ 19 February 2021
⏱️ 67 minutes
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Summary
Hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo boy. Reply All, an excellent podcast, is melting down. What happened? What does it have to do with Bon Apetit? Why does new keep breaking immediately after Jesse and Katie record an episode?
Show notes/Links:
Jesse on his rejection:
https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1361125261220196356
A couple great episodes of Reply All:
The Case of the Missing Hit: https://gimletmedia.com/shows/reply-all/o2h8bx
Shine On You Crazy Goldman
https://gimletmedia.com/shows/reply-all/2oh933/44-shine-on-you-crazy-goldman
Adam Rapaport resigns (not fired, like Jesse says):
Test Kitchen episodes of Reply All:
https://gimletmedia.com/shows/reply-all/dvhzkdo/172-the-test-kitchen-chapter-1
https://gimletmedia.com/shows/reply-all/awheda3/173-the-test-kitchen-chapter-2
Eric Eddings' thread denouncing Reply All's alleged toxicity:
https://twitter.com/eeddings/status/1361789128006897668
Everyone reflexively agreeing with it without knowing whether it is 100% true:
https://twitter.com/eeddings/status/1361789128006897668/retweets/with_comments
PJ Vogt's apology:
https://twitter.com/PJVogt/status/1362233699220258818
Sruthi Pinnamaneni's:
https://twitter.com/sruthiri/status/1362254842270519296
FdB is not A-OK with NYC (media): https://fredrikdeboer.com/2021/02/15/scott-alexander-is-not-in-the-gizmodo-media-slack
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| 0:00.0 | Katie, how's it going? |
| 0:04.3 | Hey Jesse, I wanted to ask you about a tweet that I saw the other day. |
| 0:08.4 | Normally I try to ignore your tweets, but this one just sort of caught my attention. |
| 0:12.3 | Rarely happens, but it did this time. |
| 0:14.2 | I'm going to rate it to you. |
| 0:15.3 | At Jesse's single, I got an assignment from the New Yorker a couple years ago. |
| 0:18.8 | Got to travel for it. |
| 0:19.9 | It was so excited. |
| 0:20.7 | It took months to report and write it. |
| 0:22.4 | And then the first draft elicitated the most searing rejection I've ever gotten in my life, |
| 0:26.4 | making it clear that the piece was dead on arrival. |
| 0:29.9 | Jesse, what the fuck did you do? |
| 0:31.5 | What happened? |
| 0:32.5 | How did you blow this? |
| 0:33.5 | So just to be clear, you're not interested in my tweets until I tweet something humiliating |
| 0:38.1 | or negative that happened to me. |
| 0:39.4 | And then suddenly you're full of questions. |
| 0:41.4 | It's weird how that works, isn't it? |
| 0:42.9 | Okay, so I believe I was quote retweeting someone who mentioned failure and how I think |
| 0:49.8 | the context was like in journalism, we often don't talk about our failures or we're not |
| 0:55.6 | aware of other people's failures. |
| 0:57.8 | So yeah, basically a few years ago, I had a cold pitch to story to a New Yorker editor. |
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