Episode 528 - We Are In The Messy Middle
The ArsenalVision Podcast - Arsenal FC
ArsenalVision Podcast LLC
4.8 • 2.2K Ratings
🗓️ 22 November 2021
⏱️ 111 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | What a great. |
| 0:14.0 | What a popular sober goal, my dearie, all right? |
| 0:34.5 | Possibilities here in the second. Udo W. Premier League in Premier League in typical anti-Arson our unbeaten run by handing us a difficult fixture. |
| 0:36.8 | This is the Arsenal Vision post-match podcast. My name is Elliot Smith, Kvottman, Twitter, Yankee Gunner. That's right. Everything was rolling wrong nicely. Unbeaten run. Just give us easy games. Bottom half of the table. Come on, keep it going. But no, away to Anfield, they said. And so, the unbeaten run comes to an end. But there's a lot more to it than that. And I think we will spend most of today diving into the Premier League's conspiracy against Arsenal and why they handed us his picture. No, I'm kidding. We'll talk about how this happened, a first half that maybe left some of us, not all of us, but some of us feeling emboldened, a second half that left most of us |
| 1:11.3 | feeling miserable. And what it all means in the context of a season where three clubs quite |
| 1:16.0 | clearly separate themselves from the rest, there's a messy middle. We are clearly in that messy |
| 1:20.3 | middle. Where we can finish within it, well, that remains to be seen. But this was a measuring |
| 1:25.1 | stick day. And as they say in Jaws, we're going to need a bigger stick. Um, yeah, quite a golfing class, but that's okay. By the way, an announcement from Arsenal just came out, they have moved the Barcelona women's, uh, tie to 7 p.m. to accommodate more people being able to attend. So it sounds like ticket sales are going great. I think the Emirates is going to be rocking for that game, |
| 1:45.7 | and I hope that if you have a chance to go, you definitely will. So just bear in mind that more tickets have now opened up, and it's a 7 p.m. kickoff now, which may accommodate more people, actually, sort of an earlier night might help. So something to think about there. Now, we are going to dive into all the various aspects of this game and what it means. |
| 1:46.0 | So we'll do that with Tim. So something to think about there. Now, we are going to dive into all the various aspects of this game and what it means. |
| 2:03.9 | So we'll do that with Tim. You can find him on Twitter at Stoberto. Hello, Tim. Hello. And Clive, you can find him on Twitter at Clyde, Clive PFC. Hello, Claude. And Paul, you can find him on Twitter at Pazc on Pats. I'll pause. Woo! Woo! indeed. Yeah, I think, look, the, the problem with these games is that they hurt. They hurt. It hurts to lose 4-0. It hurts to see Arsenal laid low in that fashion. And as a result, the emotional reaction to the result can obscure the analysis. And so trying to keep those two things straight is hard. I think the interesting |
| 2:37.0 | question I would ask people is if you have updated your priors based on this game, |
| 2:43.1 | why? Right? That's the thing. I think there's a lot that we need to dive into here. But for me, |
| 2:49.1 | there's nothing I thought was good about Arsenal |
| 2:51.8 | going into this game that I think differently about now. There's nothing I thought was bad about |
| 2:56.9 | Arsenal going into this game that I think differently about. I think all of the things I thought |
| 3:01.3 | about Arsenal are still true because I don't know that this game changes any of those realities, |
| 3:06.0 | but it's still worth exploring why this game played out the way it didn't if if it should have played out differently. And Clive, you and I spoke about this, so I'll start with you. I think that our TED is biggest choice. And we talked about this so much in the lead-up. In fact, I sort of apologized on Thursday's pod that we spent most of it talking about which way of losing would be the best way of losing. As it turns out, this was not the |
| 3:25.5 | best way, but at halftime, maybe it was. In a way, at halftime, we were sort of losing the way |
| 3:29.5 | I hoped we might be, and at full time we weren't. The big decision point for our TEDA was |
| 3:34.4 | stick with the lineup and tactics that had been working and use it as a measuring stick |
| 3:38.8 | and learn from it, or change it for this game |
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