Sometimes the view of people when it comes to protesting or when it comes to organized

this can be a little outdated.

And by that, I mean, we always think like, oh, we march and we march to a bridge and

then people stand there.

But I felt that disappointment and frustration the same day that I went to a huge

pro-Palestine protest in Manhattan,

as that demon jigsaw, Laura Lumer, was working with the State Department to get them to

cut off the visas for Palestinian children who had been maimed through Heel Palestine.

And it was so frustrating to me because I'm thinking to myself,

no, that's power. That's power. This demon is sitting in her apartment, getting the state

department to shut down visas for children to be able to come and get care. And yet there are

probably 15,000 people out here in New York City marching. Who's the one who's making a difference here?

this is my point. I mean, you'll get a guest on. I'll get a guest on who'll say, well, the way to do this is labor power and then, you know, and strike power. And I'll say, great. And then they'll say, well, we don't have enough labor density. So we can't do it yet. We got to do it 30 years an hour or whenever we magically get more labor density. And I'm okay, but what about now? And I am tired of this going around. What is the point? Why does labor have power?

Because they're able to grind the gears of capital to a halt and make it so that there's real

fiscal consequences for the 1% millionaires and billionaires

for the work stoppages.

Okay.

When I say walk around the whole foods and block the trucks or prevent people from getting in,

this is what I'm getting at.

If we don't have labor density, how do you, with those of us who aren't in a union who are self-employed you know all of us the majority of us who aren't in unions how then do you still have the same effect in the economy do you notice have either of you observed how crazy both liberal and conservative media gets if you talk about blocking a road have you noticed how there's like a bipartisan meltdown?

If you block a road, to me, that's a clue.

That's a clue as to what hurts and what matters.

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