Welcome to The Holy Post. On today's episode, we navigate between two things that are simultaneously true about America.

Number one, more Americans than ever are abandoning their religion.

And two, America remains the most devoutly Christian industrialized country in the world.

So first we look at an article by Helen Lewis, who says that non-believers still have religious impulses,

but now they're being expressed through political activism.

She says that Christian faith is being replaced by wokeism on the left, and a dangerous form of nationalism on the right.

Then we look at a new article by David French, who asks why our politics are so toxic and hateful

if both parties are still dependent on devoutly Christian voters.

What's it going to take for believers on both sides to put Christian virtue ahead of just winning elections?

Then Caitlin Schess talks to author Laurie Ferguson Wilbert about her new book, A Curious Faith.

The questions God asks, we ask, and we wish someone would ask us.

All of that, plus scientists are growing animals in artificial wombs. What could possibly go wrong?

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Okay, here is episode 523.

Hey there, welcome back to the HolyPost podcast. This is Phil Vischer. I am here with Skyjitani. Hi Sky. Hello Phil.

And we have, for the second week in a row, Christian Taylor. Hi Christian. Hello there. Hi.

And we get to play the game where in the world is Christian Taylor? Where in the world is Christian Christian Taylor?

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