Episode 522: The New Secular South & Celebrities for Jesus with Katelyn Beaty

The Holy Post

Phil Vischer

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4.6 • 4.1K Ratings

🗓️ 17 August 2022

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

Evangelicals are no longer the largest religious group in the South. Russell Moore says they’ve been replaced by a dangerous new kind of southern secularism. These MAGA-vangelicals don’t attend church, don’t follow the moral teachings of the Bible, and are fixated on politics and conspiracy theories but still call themselves “Christians.” What role does the church have in mitigating the danger of this new sect? Plus, a church in Texas faces legal trouble for performing an evangelistic revision of the musical Hamilton without a license. Then, Katelyn Beaty is back to discuss her new book Celebrities for Jesus: How Personas, Platforms, and Profits are Hurting the Church. She explains why we keep manufacturing more Christian celebrities despite their high failure rate, and why accountability structures aren’t enough. Also this week, Phil eulogizes Freya the walrus, and a man sues after five years of flatulence.

Patreon Bonus with Katelyn Beaty: The ugly side of Christian publishing - https://www.patreon.com/posts/70617486/

News Segment
2:45 - Freya the walrus update
9:42 - News of the Butt
15:25 - Church production of Hamilton
25:55 - The new secular south
42:48 - With God Daily
https://withgoddaily.com/

Interview with Katelyn Beaty
“Celebrities for Jesus: How Personas, Platforms, and Profits are Hurting the Church” - https://amzn.to/3wb3aqJ
44:10 - Interview intro
46:15 - Why this book?
50:45 - Fame vs. celebrity
58:13 - When accountability doesn’t work
1:04:27 - Celebrity and an illusion of intimacy
1:13:29 - Christian celebrity and discipleship
1:19:41 - Credits

Other articles and resources mentioned:
“When the South Loosens its Bible Belt” by Russell Moore (Christianity Today) - https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2022/august-web-only/russell-moore-white-evangelicals-bible-belt-south-church.html

“Fighting Flesh and Blood” by Kristin Du Mez - https://kristindumez.substack.com/p/fighting-flesh-and-blood?sd=pf

“A Church Called Tov: Forming a Goodness Culture That Resists Abuses of Power and Promotes Healing” by Laura McKnight Barringer and Scot McKnight - https://amzn.to/3A4jRF9

News of the Butt - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11041055/Father-stopped-farting-ate-ham-roll-market-five-years-ago-sues-200k.html

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Transcript

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0:00.0	Welcome to The Holy Post. On today's show, Russell Moore says that evangelicals are no longer the largest religious group in the South.
0:07.3	Instead, they've been replaced by a dangerous new form of secularism.
0:11.5	But interestingly, these people still think of themselves as Christians.
0:15.9	Then a church in Texas is facing legal trouble for performing an evangelistic version of the musical Hamilton without a license.
0:23.6	Then I talk to Caitlin Beatty about her new book, Celebrities for Jesus,
0:27.5	How Personas, Platforms and Profits are hurting the church.
0:31.2	All that, plus Phil, eulogizes Freya the walrus and a man's shoes after five years of flagellance.
0:37.9	Here is episode 522.
0:40.4	Hey there, welcome back to The Holy Post podcast. I'm Phil Vischer.
0:44.1	I'm here with Skyjotani. Hi Sky.
0:46.4	Hello Phil. Good to see you.
0:48.9	You too.
0:49.7	Thank you. And back from Who Knows Where and beaming in from Who Knows Where.
0:55.3	We have Christian Taylor. Hey Christian. Hey Phil and Sky. Nice to see you guys.
1:00.0	Good to see you. Where are you? Where are you?
1:04.2	Well, today I am in Pensacola, Florida.
1:09.8	Last week I was in Gulf shores. No, I wasn't. I was an orange beach Alabama.
1:16.0	Which if you've never been there, orange beach is the bomb.
1:19.2	Is it? It's the bomb.
1:21.1	Oh, I'm thinking. Okay. Are you like running from the law?
1:26.0	Yeah. Are you touring with your new band? What the heck?
1:29.6	You know what? Actually, I, you know, I'm 55 and my most favorite place in the world is the beach.
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