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🗓️ 22 October 2025
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Marxist economist Richard Wolff returns to Bad Faith along with historian, professor, and Green Party candidate for governor of California Butch Ware to forensically break down Gavin Newsom's recent viral appearance on Higher Learning with Van Lathan & Rachel Lindsay. Wolff & Ware weigh in on Newsom's evasions in response to questions about the inherent contradictions of capitalism, California's failure to implement Medicare for All, & the "interesting" AIPAC moment; while the Higher Learning interview serves as a jumping off point for a broader and deeper conversation about the future of left politics, Zohran Mamdani, and the limits of the Democratic Party. (It's spooky season, and there's something magical happening with this guest pairing.)
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| 0:00.0 | No, I invited this monster into my life, and I'm loving it. People get this wrong about me. I don't want to be talking. I'm happy to be a student, and you two professors are really taking me to school. I'm The I feel like I'm in a similar situation with Zrammondani, for instance, where I certainly hope he beats Andrew Cuomo. |
| 0:49.1 | I certainly love the way that he's changed the conversation around any number of issues, but specifically |
| 0:54.1 | around Gaza. I think he's a generational talent. I think there's a lot to be learned from him. |
| 0:59.7 | But when he starts to retrench on some of his prior commitments, when he backtracks on what I feel |
| 1:06.8 | like is a pretty adodyne statement, like, yeah, the cops are racist. The Supreme Court just |
| 1:11.2 | found them to be unconstitutional their practices within the last 10 years. You know, it also |
| 1:16.2 | concerns me. And I feel like it's my obligation as a journalist to talk about it. So I try to do |
| 1:22.6 | so in a way that makes it clear that I am trying to help and push him in the direction I'd like |
| 1:27.1 | him to go as opposed to trying to hurt him or trying to help and push him in the direction I'd like him to go, |
| 1:27.6 | as opposed to trying to hurt him or trying to empower Cuomo, for instance. But, you know, |
| 1:34.1 | I don't think he is served well by me pretending that he's not making moves that I think are not just |
| 1:40.7 | like morally bad choices, politically bad choices, but also like strategically |
| 1:45.8 | bad choices because I don't see capitulating on these issues as earning him any more votes |
| 1:50.1 | from the bad faith folks who are criticizing him. Why would he be doing this then? |
| 1:56.1 | I mean, I think that's the fundamental question. He's up so significantly in polls. He did it, had a very strong performance last night, and I think polls indicate that he's going to be up even more. |
| 2:06.6 | There's nothing at this point. |
| 2:08.6 | They've thrown the kitchen sink at him already. |
| 2:11.6 | So I don't know. |
| 2:14.6 | I would have more sympathy for his choices if it really were a nail biter, |
| 2:20.2 | but it's just not. So I don't know. Look, at first I thought maybe it's something like |
| 2:26.1 | the Rosales reporting that he was sitting down with, you know, Jewish community members. And I have |
| 2:31.9 | empathy for the idea that a human being, when confronted with |
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