Episode 515: America After Roe & Pursuing Shalom with Amy Sherman

The Holy Post

Phil Vischer

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🗓️ 29 June 2022

⏱️ 93 minutes

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Summary

Phil and Kaitlyn are finally back from (separate) trips to Europe, but they’re returning to a very different America. The Supreme Court has officially overturned Roe and ended the Constitutional right to abortion. What’s good about the decision? What’s concerning? And why is it increasingly unacceptable to have a nuanced understanding of this issue? Then, a new article by Ronald Brownstein says America’s relative unity in the 20th century was an anomaly, and the country may be heading toward a permanent split. Can the union be saved?

Skye then talked to Amy Sherman, the author of our Holy Post Book Club selection, “Agents of Flourishing: Pursuing Shalom in Every Corner of Society.” Sherman says we need a larger, more biblical vision of God’s redemption, and we must recapture what it means for Christ’s people to be a “royal priesthood” in parts of the culture often overlooked by the church. Plus, Phil’s European report includes wild horses, naked Dutch men, and a frustrating lack of Diet Coke.

Patreon Bonus: Getting Schooled by Kaitlyn Schiess, Faith & Capitalism 101 - https://www.patreon.com/posts/68383122

News Segment
0:00 - Intro
1:28 - Kaitlyn’s travelogue
6:54 - Phil’s travelogue
20:03 - America after Roe
44:28 - America growing apart
Interview with Amy Sherman
Amy Sherman - https://sagamoreinstitute.org/bio-amy-sherman/

“Agents of Flourishing” - https://amzn.to/3HZZdtp

57:07 - Amy Sherman intro
59:02 - Jeremiah 29:7
1:05:27 - Royal priesthood
1:10:08 - Community endowments
1:13:24 - Understanding flourishing
1:24:09 - Ethics and Christian influence
Other resources referenced in episode:
“Roe Is Reversed, and the Right Isn’t Ready” by David French (The Dispatch) - https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/roe-is-reversed-and-the-right-isnt

“America is Growing Apart, Possibly for Good” by Ronal Brownstein (The Atlantic) - https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2022/06/red-and-blue-state-divide-is-growing-michael-podhorzer-newsletter/661377/

“No Future Without Forgiveness” by Desmond Tutu - https://amzn.to/3nof6R3

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Holy Post. Phil and Caitlin are finally back from separate trips to Europe,
0:05.0	but they're returning to a very different America. The Supreme Court has officially overturned
0:09.7	a row and ended the constitutional right to abortion. What's good about the decision,
0:14.8	what's concerning, and why is it increasingly unacceptable to have a nuanced understanding
0:19.4	of this issue? Will unpack all of it on this week's episode. Then a new article by Ronald
0:24.6	Brownstein says that America's relative unity in the 20th century wasn't anomaly, and the country
0:30.0	may be heading toward a permanent split. But can the union be saved? Then I talk with Amy Sherman,
0:36.2	the author of our Holy Post book club selection, Agents of Flourishing, pursuing Shalom in every
0:42.1	corner of society. Plus, Phil gives us his report from Europe which includes wild horses, naked
0:48.4	Dutchmen, and a frustrating lack of diet coke. Two announcements before we get started. First,
0:54.3	our 10th anniversary merchandise is now available at HolyPost.com. You'll find hats, mugs,
0:59.6	stickers, t-shirts, and a whole bunch more with our special anniversary artwork, so be sure to check
1:04.5	that out. And second, this week we're releasing the second episode of our Patreon exclusive series
1:10.5	Getting Schooled by Caitlin Chess. This time Caitlin is schooling us on Christianity and capitalism.
1:16.9	The series is exclusively for HolyPost Patreon supporters, so if you want access,
1:21.6	go to HolyPost.com and click the support us button to sign up. Okay, here is episode 515.
1:28.4	Hey there. Welcome back to the podcast. This is the HolyPost podcast. I'm Phil Vischer. I am here
1:33.8	with Skyjutani. Hi Sky. Hi Phil. Welcome back to the country. Thank you. Thank you.
1:40.0	I'm the same one you remember. I am back in the USA. I think it's still a little crazy. And
1:48.5	Caitlin Chess. Caitlin, we haven't seen you in like, I don't know how five weeks. How long has it been
1:53.6	since you were on the show? Like three. No. Four, maybe four. Four, at least four. Yeah, four.
2:01.0	Yeah, because we had four guests. And were you, but, but, but Sky, was she the last co-host or was
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