Welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love hosted by Richard Osler.

In my home on a Sunday afternoon and cold January day recording this podcast in person is my friend Tanya.

Baker Miller, welcome to the podcast, Tanya.

Thank you, Richard.

I'm going to give you a little bit of introduction about Tanya,

and then I'll turn it over to Tanya to see if I got most of that right.

Tanya is a clinical social worker,

and she got her undergraduate from BYU and a master's in social work from the

University of Utah. And she is a married mother of four children. Her husband's here with us

today. And her son, Andy, the oldest of their four children, was on episode 382. You could check that out. And he's a gay

Latter-day Saint. And Tanya's going to talk about families that have what may be called a

crisis of faith and are working to keep the family circle together, but wanting to continue to participate with the

church, but may have questions about how to make that work. And from her clinical perspective,

from our first-hand experience as a mother, and as a parent, she has some really wonderful

insight. So this podcast, if you're in a crisis of faith, if you're a parent working to keep

your family circled together and trust and confidence and vulnerability and communication,

this podcast will be helpful for if you want to continue to stay involved with the church

and they're looking for tools and principles that help you navigate that path forward. I think

Tonya will have some insights for you. If you have you navigate that path forward. I think Tanya will have some

insights for you. If you have family members that have left the church, I think she'll have

principles and insights that help keep the family circled together, even when the reality of that

becomes part of your family. Also, Tanya, and her son, Andy, and maybe the whole family, were on one of the

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