Welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love hosted by Richard Osler.

My guest on today's podcast, joining me from BYU, is a student at BYU, joining me via Zoom, is my friend Alexander Sallis Latora.

Welcome to the podcast, Alexander.

Thank you so much, Brother Oscar, for having me today on your podcast.

As you know, I'm usually someone who is behind the scenes running a massive interface group

like World War Unified.

But today I will be in front, showing my thoughts and part of my story

here with a hope to inspire someone. Thank you for the opportunity.

Listeners, we're going to talk about Alexander's High Five Devotional, and I just want to

read you the message I sent to him back in November after listening to it. I listened

to your high-fived devotional. This is me to Alexander listeners this morning on my walk. Wow,

it is excellent. I wish everyone in the church could listen to this. Your insights in belonging

and creating safe places are spot on. I learned so much from your insights.

One in particular was that people who wonder if they belong are often the best at helping others feel like they belong because they know this road.

I love the sign you have in your apartment at BYU that reads safe place, safe space, come chat.

And I sense you've had many discussions.

So that's a little bit of background listeners, why I wanted Alexander to be on the podcast.

And this is going to be about belonging.

And if you're wondering if you belong in the church

or if you're trying to, as a parent or a local leader, a member, create a feeling of belonging

for people in your circle, Alexander is uniquely qualified to talk about this. Pretty vulnerable

with his background in times where he didn't feel like he belonged.

...