Hi, I'm Jonathan Lehman.

Welcome to this special episode of Nine Marks Pastors Talk.

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Why is this episode special you ask?

Well, Mark Devere is out of town.

And since the cat is away, I thought the mice might want to come out and play.

Which is why I've invited two of Mark's associate pastors

to talk about being associate pastors.

First, we have Bobby Jamison.

Bobby, thank you for being here.

Happy to be here, Jonathan.

Who you might know from his book's Sound Doctrine, as well as going public.

I commend them both to you.

And Bobby, you've been a pastor for about a year. Not quite a year.

Yeah. That's right. I just finished up his PhD overseas and then here he is. We also have

Jamie Dunlop, who you might know from the book he co-authored with Mark called Compelling Community.

Excellent book. And he was a non-stuff elder in this church for how many years?

Three years.

And you were working basically as a management consultant here in town.

And we're doing such great job, great work, eldering that you asked, we asked you to come on board full time.

I told my neighbors it was a mercy hire.

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