Welcome to the low-carb MD podcast where we seek progress, not perfection.

Hey guys it's me, is Troe Kalasian I'm here solo today Brian could not make it

yet something to do but I'm back with our favorite recurring co-host here.

It's Dr. Jason Fung.

He's here.

We're going to be talking about some new studies

and some interesting topics.

One of the things we wanted to talk about is this common comment we hear from, let's say,

naysayers and Ivory Tower scientists that all of the metabolic improvements from low-carb or

intermittent fasting or prolonged fasting all of it is from calorie restriction or

from from weight loss alone.

So what do you what do you think what do you what do you think what do you think when you hear

people say that uh... dr. funk

yeah hey it's great to be here.

So yeah, you know, honestly, every time I hear somebody talk about calories, I always think, oh, there's

here clearly don't understand what you're doing because the whole thing is like, you know,

the human body really determines how much fat we have.

It's a very important determinant of survival.

So therefore, if you look in the wild, for example, there's no fat animals like you see with dogs and cats these days.

And there's a reason for that.

If you are a wild animal and you're fat you can't go and catch things. So therefore it's a big

disadvantage to be fat. If you're like a herbivore you still don't want to be fat because the lion will come and eat you.

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