Politicians like Bernie Sanders are acting in a very unwise way.

If they buy into this myth that the problem is Netanyahu and he's the only one who, he's the root of all evil, they're setting themselves up for failure. The

The All right, I'm so glad to have back on Bad Faith podcast, Shear Hever.

He is a scholar of Israel's occupation, apartheid, and genocide. And also, you might remember him from his

appearance. Last year, at which time he was the coordinator for the BDS movement's military

embargo campaign, and it can also offer some thoughts about the continued BDS movement. Welcome

back to Bad Faith Podcast. Thanks for having me, Brianna.

First off, I want to address something that we talked about on your last appearance on Bad Faith podcast. I was re-listening to it this morning. And it was interesting to reflect on

our back and forth about how we thought Joe Biden versus Donald Trump

were going to continue funding if there was going to be any break in Biden's policy by

Donald Trump, who was at the time running on sort of an America first line and promising

that the war would be quote unquote wrapped up quickly, et cetera.

I do wonder if there's anything surprising from your perspective on how Donald Trump has

continued to litigate this genocide. Well, I think it's not just him, right? He has a whole

team of people working with him and the whole

GOP and his advisors and so on. So I think there's a certain tension now between Trump and the way

that he speaks and the people around him because Netanyahu has been very unapologetic by

referring to Trump basically as his lackey, something that I did find surprising that didn't

offend Trump because he's a very easily offendable person. When Netanyahu refers to him as his

puppet, then Trump would be maybe a two-year-old kind of personality that he has, would intentionally

try to prove him wrong. But what we saw

last month in June when Israel attacked Iran, it was very clear, especially to the Israelis, that

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