Episode 496: The Embrace of Tyrants & the Despair of Pastors

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Phil Vischer

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🗓️ 16 February 2022

⏱️ 93 minutes

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Summary

A scary number of Americans now say violence may be necessary to fix the country. A new report looks at what combination of beliefs cause a person to endorse political violence, and why it’s more common on the right. Then, in response to last week’s interview, Phil unpacks how our modern belief in human goodness explains the rise in authoritarianism and populism. And, why are U.S. Christians supporting the “Freedom Convoy” in Canada? A recent study from Barna found more than one-third of pastors have seriously considered leaving ministry in the last year. What’s behind this crisis? Is the problem our culture, church members, how we’ve structured ministry, or is it pastors themselves? Skye talks to Glenn Packiam about his new book, “The Resilient Pastor,” and why it’s time to reexamine our assumptions about the church and its leadership. Plus, scientists create an artificial fish powered by love.

News Segment

0:00 - Intro/updates from the crew
4:44 - Valentine’s Day
6:39 - Animal News
https://newatlas.com/robotics/biohybrid-fish-human-heart-cells/

13:08 - Recap: Last week’s interview with Robert Tracy McKenzie
https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-495-the-false-gospel-of-democracy-with-robert-tracy-mckenzie

18:08 - Study: Moral divisions and authoritarian leaders
https://www.psypost.org/2022/02/study-provides-first-evidence-of-a-causal-link-between-perceived-moral-division-and-support-for-authoritarian-leaders-62479

36:36 - Beliefs leading to endorsement of political violence
https://www.psypost.org/2022/02/victimhood-racial-identity-and-conspiracism-interact-with-christian-nationalism-to-lead-to-support-for-violence-62589
David French piece: https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/the-seeds-of-political-violence-are

50:53 - News segment wrap-up

Sponsor
53:04 - Faithful Counseling
faithfulcounseling.com/holypost

Interview with Glenn Packiam“The Resilient Pastor” - https://amzn.to/34WGgbK
https://www.barna.com/resilient-pastor/

54:17 - Interview intro
56:19 - “Pastor” definition and recent Barna stats
1:00:07 - Glenn Packiam’s story/pilgrimage
1:04:02 - Tension in how pastors spend their time
1:13:44 - Authority
1:21:10 - Slowing down
1:28:10 - What’s next?

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0:00.0	Welcome to episode 496. A new report has diagnosed what combination of beliefs leads a person to
0:06.5	endorse political violence. But did we really need a study to tell us that? Then in response to
0:12.0	last week's interview, Phil wants to talk about how our belief in human goodness explains the
0:16.8	rise of authoritarianism and populism. Plus, why are U.S. Christians endorsing the freedom
0:22.3	convoy in Canada? Then I talk to Glenn Pacquiam about his new book, The Resilient Pastor,
0:28.0	and all the new Barnadata about what's affecting our pastors and why so many of them want to leave
0:33.0	ministry. A few more things before we jump into the episode. Once again, Christian was recording on
0:38.1	the road as she travels, and this time her internet connection wasn't that reliable. So,
0:43.1	unfortunately, there are some gaps and lags and talking over one another. We apologize for that,
0:47.7	but it's the best we could do with what we had. Apart from that technical announcement,
0:51.6	we have two really exciting announcements. We are just weeks away from our 500th episode,
0:57.6	and we never would have gotten this far without the help of our Patreon supporters.
1:01.8	So we're inviting you to help participate in the 500th episode. And there's two ways you can do
1:07.4	that. First, you can submit a voice message sharing your favorite Holy Post memory. It could be an
1:13.2	episode, a story, a guest, or some other moment, or maybe just the general message about how the
1:18.2	Holy Post has been meaningful to you. We're actually going to select some of your voice messages
1:23.2	and use them on Episode 500. The second way to participate in celebrating this milestone
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1:34.4	and we're going to select one winner to use on all of our special 500th episode Holy Post merchandise.
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1:50.0	all the details. Again, we're super grateful for all of your support to get us this far, and we
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