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You know, I sort of didn't have much faith in politics to start with.

And then the first time I ever got even curious about politics at all as a solution was Barack Obama's first campaign.

I went to rallies. I've never done that. You know, I voted. But that was about the end of it. It was the end's first campaign. I went to rallies.

I've never done that. You know, I voted, but that was about the end of it. It was the end of my involvement. And then I kind of got pumped. You know, I like, we had an election night party, all this stuff for Obama's first thing, you know, and then wasn't that long. And then you started seeing the cabinet. You started, you know, Rahm Emanuel's involved. Yeah. So then I got pretty discouraged.

I didn't really think about politics again until Bernie was running. He was even considering running. I was actually sitting on my food truck. I had a set of food trucks that I had. That was my business. And listening to Tom Hartman's brunch with Bernie. And then boom.

So then I guess through that process, you know, the next seven years, I got, I don't know,

you get frustrated.

You start to treat people like tools.

People become mechanisms to achieve a goal instead of people.

Because you're like, okay, we've got to get to this end point.

So you start treating your coworkers or your boss or a lot of people.

You can only have so many arguments before you said,

maybe I should go somewhere else.

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