Episode 49 - Mark Meadows Makes a Deal; Trump Gets Re-Gagged; A Dog with a Job
It's Complicated
Renato Mariotti
4.8 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 3 November 2023
⏱️ 33 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | M. S. W. Media. |
| 0:07.0 | Renato. Is Mark Meadows cooperating with Special Counsel Jack Smith against Donald Trump. |
| 0:13.0 | It's complicated. |
| 0:16.0 | I'm Renata Marriott. |
| 0:21.0 | I'm a former federal prosecutor, a practicing lawyer, and a legal analyst. |
| 0:26.5 | And I'm Asher Rangofa. |
| 0:28.5 | I teach national security law at Yale University. |
| 0:31.3 | I'm a former FBI Special Agent and I'm a legal |
| 0:34.4 | contributor for ABC News. And we're here to help you understand topics that can't |
| 0:38.8 | be boiled down into a sound bite or a tweet. |
| 1:07.3 | So, Renato. We got some interesting scuttle butt last week about the January 6th case in DC from ABC News which reported that Mark Meadows had received immunity for testimony against Trump. |
| 1:13.0 | However, after that, his lawyer came out and denied the whole story and said, that's a lie. |
| 1:21.0 | And everyone was completely confused but you have a theory. |
| 1:27.0 | I do and actually partly is because the ABC News story to their credit was very carefully worded. |
| 1:35.2 | And so if you read that story very carefully, what he actually received was what I'll call, |
| 1:41.3 | and we've called, I think we've had this discussion in the past |
| 1:44.3 | It's called use immunity where essentially it's it's less than full immunity |
| 1:50.1 | Where you're getting you can't get charged at all and what it essentially is is an order from the court saying you can't take the fifth you've got to come in and testify and it protects both that testimony from being used against you and then also anything |
| 2:07.1 | derived from that testimony. |
| 2:08.7 | Yeah and that can be potentially expansive I think because if I'm not mistaken, use immunity is what Congress |
| 2:18.9 | gave many of the witnesses in Iran Contra. |
| 2:23.7 | And so they testified to the congressional committees. |
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