Episode 488: How Trump Stole Christmas & Paul and Gender with Cynthia Long Westfall
The Holy Post
Phil Vischer
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🗓️ 22 December 2021
⏱️ 85 minutes
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Summary
Last Sunday, the former president attended an advent service at First Baptist Church in Dallas. Some have called what unfolded an example of evangelicalism’s syncretism with conservative politics. Why aren’t more people bothered by it? Then, Don Jr. said if Christians want to take back America they need to ignore Jesus’ commands like “Turn the other cheek.” Kaitlyn says he’s right. Skye responds to listener feedback to his interview about Gen Z, and Phil reads listener comments about abortion.
Then, Kaitlyn speaks with New Testament professor Dr. Cynthia Long Westfall about Paul and gender. Dr. Westfall says we need to apply the same interpretive framework to what the Bible says about men as we do for women. Based on the weight of biblical evidence, she argues that the burden of proof isn’t on those who say women should lead and teach, but on those who say they shouldn’t. Plus, why are do so many Christmas cards this year fear assault weapons? One historian says you can blame the YMCA.
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News Segment
0:00 - Intro
2:43 - Mailbag: Gen Z
14:18 - Mailbag: Abortion
23:55 “How Trump Stole Christmas”
https://time.com/6130228/donald-trump-christmas-evangelicals/33:29 - Donald Trump Jr. on turning the other cheek
https://www.rawstory.com/turning-point-usa-and-donald-trump-jr/41:27 - Guns on Christmas cards
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/12/14/guns-christmas-thomas-massie-lauren-boebert/53:18 -Sponsor
This episode is sponsored by FaithfulCounseling: faithfulcounseling.com/holypost
Interview with Cynthia Long Westfall
“Discovering Biblical Equality: Biblical, Theological, Cultural, and Practical Perspectives” - https://amzn.to/3egJok0
54:41 - Interview Start
56:46 - About the book - purpose and new edition
56:07 - Cynthia Long Westfall background
1:07:05 - Galatians 3:28 and differences between genders
1:19:53 - Advice for women in ministry
Other resources mentioned:
“Paul and Gender: Reclaiming the Apostle’s Vision for Men and Women in Christ” - https://amzn.to/3phN7nN
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to episode 488. On today's show, we jump into the mailbag to answer your questions about |
| 0:06.0 | last week's episode concerning Gen Z and abortion. Then we discuss Donald Trump's appearance |
| 0:11.8 | at First Baptist Church in Dallas, which became a full-blown worship event for the former president. |
| 0:17.6 | What are we to do with this kind of syncretism between Christianity and American conservative politics? |
| 0:23.6 | Then Donald Trump Jr. said that if we're serious about taking back America, |
| 0:27.6 | we need to stop following the teachings of Jesus like Turn the Other Cheek. |
| 0:31.7 | Caitlin Chess then interviews Dr. Cynthia Long Westfall, associate professor of New Testament |
| 0:36.8 | and McMaster Divinity School about her work on Paul and Gender. All of that, |
| 0:42.1 | plus why the YMCA is to blame for so many Christians posing with guns on their Christmas cards. |
| 0:47.7 | All right, here we go, Holy Post Episode 488. |
| 0:51.0 | Hey there, welcome back to the Lightpost Podcast. This is Phil Vissier. I am here with delightful, |
| 0:56.5 | delightful people. I'm here with Caitlin Chess. Hi Caitlin. Hi Phil. |
| 1:00.8 | Hi, delightful from Colorado because she's home for Christmas. Yep. |
| 1:06.0 | And she's on an Air Force Base and we may hear Jets flying over doing test runs bombing her house |
| 1:12.4 | periodically. Intense, but your house does your house have a big like a big target on the roof |
| 1:18.0 | just for practice? No. For planes to lock their bombs right now. No, no. |
| 1:25.0 | Okay. And Sky, Jets, Hi Sky. What's flying over your house today, Sky? |
| 1:30.4 | I probably everything. I heard a helicopter earlier. |
| 1:33.7 | Probably everything. Everything. Everything in the world is flying over your house. |
| 1:39.2 | I can see contrails of an airplane right now out my window. What? |
| 1:42.8 | I heard helicopters. That's a very weird definition of everything. And there's birds. |
| 1:49.2 | Everything. Yeah, things that fly. They're out there. Yeah. Okay. |
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