Episode 48: Sleep Training: What we Know (and what we DON’T KNOW) from the Research with Amanda Ruggeri
No One Told Us
Rachael Shepard-Ohta
4.9 • 590 Ratings
🗓️ 18 July 2024
⏱️ 39 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back to the podcast today. I'm speaking with Amanda Ruggieri, a multi-award winning journalist, |
| 0:10.0 | specializing in psychology, parenting, and child development. She also covers media and science literacy, |
| 0:15.8 | including on her Instagram page and in her column for the BBC, how not to be manipulated. As a triple citizen who |
| 0:22.8 | has lived in four countries, she's especially interested in breaking topics down from not only |
| 0:27.8 | scientific but cross-cultural, anthropological, and historical perspectives. Her stories on infant |
| 0:33.6 | sleep, including the science of healthy baby sleep, and what we do and don't know about |
| 0:38.0 | sleep training have been read by more than 3 million people worldwide. And you can find her work |
| 0:43.1 | most frequently on the BBC's science section, Scientific American, New Scientist, and the Jacob |
| 0:49.3 | Foundation's bold.expert, as well as on her own Instagram page at Mandy Ruggieri. I have been connected with you |
| 0:56.6 | for such a long time, it feels like now, just through Instagram, and I'm so excited to have you. |
| 1:01.0 | Thank you so much for being here. Thank you so much for having me. So we mentioned in the intro your |
| 1:07.0 | two articles on sleep for the BBC that are so, they're so prolific now. And I feel like |
| 1:12.9 | a lot of those three million readers had to have come from my page because I recommend those pieces |
| 1:18.0 | all the time. They're just such a perfect, I'll link them in the show notes too, just in case |
| 1:22.1 | anybody has not come across them yet. But they're such a perfect summarization of what we do and don't know about baby sleep |
| 1:29.2 | and about sleep training in particular. Was that just assigned to you or was that something you took |
| 1:34.4 | a special interest in? That was definitely something I took a special interest in. And thank you for |
| 1:40.1 | sharing it with your readers, by the way. I'm sure they were a big driver of all those readers. |
| 1:44.0 | So, yeah, I mean, as a little bit of quick background, I mean, I came into maternity leave, actually, |
| 1:50.7 | from being the editor of what was then called BBC Future, which was at the time BBC.com's |
| 1:56.3 | international-facing science and evidence-based site. It's now been rolled into other parts of the BBC, but that's neither here nor there. |
| 2:02.6 | And a lot of what we did was very much not only looking at original evidence and research and talking to researchers, |
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