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You are not alone.

You have found other people.

You and I have a friend in common.

Every stupid thing that a writer could do I've done.

I think it's really beautiful. Jake, what I struggle, you know? It was incredible. It was like your head exploded, seeing what was really there. And now here's your host, Brad Listy. Just one person. Hey, everybody. How's it going? I'm Brad Lusty. This is the Other People podcast. Thank you for tuning in. I'm here in Los Angeles, and I have Jared Kobach back on the program. You may remember him from a while back. I don't know how long ago it was. Maybe a year, a little over a year. He was celebrating the publication of his novel, I Hate the Internet, which became a kind of cult sensation.

He now has a new novel out called The Future Won't Be Long.

It's due out on August 15th from Viking, August 15th, 2017.

The Future Won't Be Long, Jared Kobeck, he and I are going to be in conversation momentarily.

It's going to be a short monologue today.

Everything's chaotic.

My wife has to go out of town.

I've got both kids.

My mom is here.

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