And this week's episode of Startups for the Rest of us, I catch up with Mike Tabor and get an update on his progress with Blue Tick.

This is Startups for the Rest of Us, episode 470.

Welcome to Startups for the Rest of us. It's the podcast.

It helps developers, designers, and entrepreneurs be awesome at building, launching, and growing startups.

Whether you built your fifth startup or you're thinking about your first.

I'm Rob, and today with Mike Tabor, we're going to share our experiences to help you avoid the mistakes we've made.

Welcome to the show.

I'm your host, Rob Walling, each week on the show. I cover topics related to building, growing startups in order to build yourself a better life and improve the world in some small

way. We strive to be ambitious, but we're not willing to sacrifice our life or health to grow our

companies. And we have many different show formats. We have some tactics and teaching. We have

interviews, listener questions. Sometimes we do founder hot

seats and breaking news episodes, all kinds of things that just mix it up. And the feedback I've

gotten since the mix-up 20, 25 episodes ago is that people really like that. And they almost

like the unpredictability of it. And I've been overwhelmingly told to keep going

and keep doing what we're doing. So each month or so, about every four to six weeks, I catch up

with Mike Tabor, and he's still a regular guest on the show, but he only comes on every month

or two to kind of update us on what he's been doing with his product, Blue Tick, that he's been

struggling to get to the point of supporting him full time. If you haven't already heard

episodes 448 and 458, I'd encourage you to go listen to those episodes because they do give you

background on really what we're talking about and how I'm trying to help push Mike forward

and, you know, challenge some of his

assumptions. Also to get updates just to hear what's going on because I like, I like to know

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