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The Charles C. W. Cooke Podcast

Episode 47: See Saw, Stalemate Thaw? — with Ruy Texeira

The Charles C. W. Cooke Podcast

National Review

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5.01000 Ratings

🗓️ 15 November 2023

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

On episode 47, Charles tries to work out why some of the anti-Israel protests have bothered him so much, and then talks to Ruy Texeira about the current state of the Democratic Party. Among the questions asked are: Why is Texeira's new book called 'Where Have All the Democrats Gone?' when the Democrats seem to be doing fine? Why is the "shadow Democratic Party" so strong? What is the "soul" of the Democratic Party? What did Bill Clinton get right in the 1990s? How correct was the thesis of 'The Emerging Democratic Majority?' Is abortion hurting the Republicans? What should we draw from this year's Virginia elections? And is demography destiny after all?

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0:00.0

Welcome to episode

0:05.0

of the Charles C.W. Cook podcast.

0:27.8

My apologies for having missed a couple of weeks. I had food poisoning last week.

0:35.5

And honestly, it hit me like a two by four. I won't go into too much detail,

0:43.4

but suffice it to say that at one point, I felt like Luther Abel must have when he was devoured

0:49.2

by those creatures. God rest his soul. If he had one, we'll never know. So I've been trying to put my finger

1:02.8

on what precisely it is that bothers me so much about some of the anti-Israel protests that I've seen.

1:14.0

And I think I've worked it out.

1:18.2

It's that much of the bigotry on display is different from the bigotry, whether soft or hard,

1:25.8

that I have seen in my own experience.

1:30.2

Now, I don't have an especially well-developed framework to describe this,

1:35.2

but broadly speaking, I think I'd place racial or religious or cultural bigotry into two groups.

1:45.8

Intuitive and learned.

1:49.3

By intuitive, I mean the sort of stupid stuff that kids sometimes do when they encounter someone different.

1:56.8

Perhaps a new student arrives at your school and he has a thick accent and because you're a kid, you mimic it.

2:04.8

Now, that's not actually bigotry in the classic sense because in most cases you don't mean it.

2:10.6

But it is playing around with stereotypes and marking out differences.

2:14.8

And it can sometimes matter because it can make the people at whom

2:19.3

it's aimed feel really terrible. I'm sure I was guilty of this myself at times when I was a little

2:25.7

kid. I'm pretty sure everyone has been. I'm also sure that when it was pointed out to me that

2:32.3

I was being mean, I stopped. And that's the first time.

2:37.3

The second sort I've encountered is learned bigotry. Now, I don't say this to praise myself,

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