Episode 466: Sermongate, Stats, & Sexual Abuse with Mary DeMuth

The Holy Post

Phil Vischer

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🗓️ 21 July 2021

⏱️ 90 minutes

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Summary

When news broke that the new president of the SBC lifted portions of his message from the previous SBC president’s sermon without attribution, #Sermongate erupted. The Holy Post crew unpacks the controversy, why so many pastors either outsource their sermon prep or plagiarize, and why the pressure to preach may be harming the church. Then, in a dramatic reversal, new data from Pew says mainline churches are growing while evangelical churches are shrinking. Have evangelicals been burned by their own critique that mainline churches don’t take the Bible seriously? Then, author and advocate Mary DeMuth explains the history of sexual abuse in the church, why cover ups are now so common, how we can respond more redemptively, and the best ways to prevent abuse in the first place. Plus—good news! Scientists say we have a back-up breathing option if our lungs fail.

https://www.cnet.com/news/scientists-say-mammals-can-breathe-through-their-butts-in-emergencies/

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/06/us/sermongate-plagiarism-litton-greear.html

https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/podcasts/rise-and-fall-of-mars-hill/

https://religionnews.com/2021/07/08/survey-white-mainline-protestants-outnumber-white-evangelicals/

https://www.prri.org/research/2020-census-of-american-religion/

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/06/30/behind-bidens-2020-victory/

https://twitter.com/SkyeJethani/status/1410335364116627465

Resources from Mary DeMuth:

"We Too: How the Church Can Respond Redemptively to the Sexual Abuse Crisis": https://amzn.to/3tugZOv

https://www.wetoo.org/resources/

https://www.wetoo.org/survivors/21days/

https://www.netgrace.org/

A Church Called Tov: https://amzn.to/38Q55F4

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Transcript

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0:00.0	Welcome to Holy Post episode 466. When news broke a few weeks ago that the new president of the
0:06.4	Southern Baptist had lifted portions of a message from the previous SBC president sermon without
0:12.0	attribution, hashtag sermon gate was born. We unpack the controversy, why so many pastors either
0:19.4	outsource their sermon prep or flat out plagiarize, and why the pressure to preach is more proof that
0:25.0	a sermon-centric church model may be flawed. Then in a dramatic reversal, new data from the
0:31.1	Pew organization says, mainline churches are growing while evangelical churches are shrinking.
0:36.9	Have evangelicals been burned by their own critique that mainline churches don't take the
0:41.1	Bible seriously? Or is the data just more proof that people are abandoning the evangelical label,
0:47.2	even if they're staying at the same church? Then I talk to author and advocate Mary Dumuth,
0:52.4	who explains the history of sexual abuse in the church, why cover-ups are now so common,
0:57.9	how we can respond more redemptively, and the best ways to prevent the abuse in the first place.
1:03.6	All of that plus some good news from the science desk, where researchers report that we now have
1:08.7	a back-up breathing option if our lungs fail. Buckle up everyone, it's time for the Holy Post.
1:14.6	Hey there, welcome back to the show. This is the Holy Post podcast. I'm Phil Visher, and I am here
1:19.7	with Skyjitani. Hi Sky. Hi Phil. And Caitlin Chess. Hi Caitlin. Hi Phil. And
1:28.8	Kramer. Hi Kramer. Hi Jerry. Jason Rugg, who still has his Kramer hair on, because it's
1:39.6	humid in the desert. So it really gets to your hair. Yeah, your hair just goes absolutely crazy.
1:46.2	Sky, why are you looking at me like that? Because the deserts are not humid. That's the very definition of the desert.
1:51.6	There's no moisture. And now it's time for the things, dog.
2:00.4	What's the news that you like the most? Who's your favorite podcast host? If it's breakfast,
2:08.0	get your toast. It's Skyjitani. The Holy Post. Skyjitani. The Holy Post.
2:15.5	And sometimes take land. Oh, Caitlin, it's so good to have you here. Is your mother nearby?
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