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Sword and Scale

Episode 46

Sword and Scale

Incongruity

History, Society & Culture, True Crime, Documentary

4.063.8K Ratings

🗓️ 24 May 2015

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Despite being a grown man, Joseph McEnroe still exhibits the same traits he did when he was just a little boy: He bottles up his frustrations until they explode in fits of violence. He also seems to have a hint of the same Nightingale Syndrome that his mother uses to justify her abhorrent dating behaviors. Joseph follows in her footsteps by meeting a series of strange women through his online fantasy writing group and then travelling to whatever city they're in an attempt to start a relationship. Many of these women give him the cold shoulder, but Michelle Anderson, unfortunately, does not. The relationship that followed would end in the deaths of six innocent people at the hands of this awkward young man, an illegitimate child without even a proper mother to guide him. You may think he's a monster or you may take pity on him, but in the end a jury of 12 King County peers ultimately decided his fate. Is it life or death? You'll find out in this episode which is part 2 of the two-part story known as The Carnation Murders.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Sword and Scale contains adult themes and violence.

0:03.0

It is not intended for all audiences.

0:05.0

Listener discretion is advised.

0:08.0

I mean, that was my function of hell, okay?

0:13.0

Knowing that I went and done this horrible, awful stuff

0:17.0

and made this huge, terrible impact in these people's lives. And for what?

0:22.6

Because I thought I had to?

0:24.6

Was I really that stupid?

0:26.6

Yeah, I was, actually.

0:31.6

I'm sitting here listening to my thing, I'm like,

0:34.6

was I really this callow, this foolish,

0:38.3

to all these things, this realfully ignorant?

0:41.3

Do you believe for?

0:43.3

Yeah.

0:48.3

So?

0:52.3

Joe, I put a cup of water next to you up there if you need.

0:54.8

Okay.

1:03.7

Welcome to Sword and Scale episode 46, a show that reveals that the worst monsters are real.

1:20.3

Yeah. a show that reveals that the worst monsters are real. Last week, we started to tell you about Joseph McEnroe and the Carnation murders.

1:24.8

If you haven't heard that, go back and listen to Episode 45 first. This week,

1:29.2

in part two, we will delve deeper into the madness and the demented mind that carried out this

1:34.5

horrible act. There's a lot to cover, so let's jump right in.

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