Episode 45

Sword and Scale

Incongruity

History, Society & Culture, True Crime, Documentary

4.0 • 63.8K Ratings

🗓️ 17 May 2015

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

In this first part of a two-part story, we examine the Carnation Murders. This slaughtering of an entire family, by a seriously deranged couple, took place in 2007 in Carnation, Washington, a small rural town 25 miles east of Seattle. This story is told through the words of the man behind the trigger, as he's tries to make excuses and barter for his life. As with all unspeakable acts such as this we are interested in finding out why this occurred, so we take a closer look at Joseph McEnroe's life and family. Somewhere along the way, despite this hateable man's atrocity, we end up finding out he was actually a human being that and pity begins to take the place of hate. A product of the horrible home life due to a mother who was desperate for male companionship and unfit to care for her 4 illegitimate children, McEnroe ended up having to pick up the slack and take on most of the household responsibilities while he was still just a child. This along with his social awkwardness and speech impediment are all ingredients that made up the disaster he would become as an adult.

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0:00.0	Sword and Scale contains adult themes and violence.
0:03.0	It is not intended for all audiences.
0:05.2	Listener discretion is advised.
0:10.1	Yes, Your Honor.
0:11.0	The defense calls Joseph Bacchanerone.
0:17.9	Welcome to Sword and Scale, episode 45, a show that reveals that the worst monsters are real.
0:36.4	This week, we have another surprise two-parterter with two episodes just one week apart so we'll tell you
0:42.1	the first part this week and the next part next week i wasn't intending on telling this story because
0:47.2	the audio is just so bad but i got sucked into watching the penalty phase of the trial and 30 hours of video later. I couldn't help
0:55.7	myself. I needed to tell this story. So I spent another 30 hours editing it and trying to make it
1:00.5	sound listenable. So I apologize if there's some audio distortion and stuff like that. But I did the
1:07.6	best I could and I think the story is compelling enough that you'll want to hear it.
1:11.9	A little bit of housekeeping before we get started.
1:14.0	If you're on any of our social media pages, you'll know that we're working on some cool stuff.
1:19.1	Merchandise, to be exact.
1:21.0	T-shirts, caps, mugs, things like that.
1:24.0	And they're coming.
1:25.3	In fact, you might have noticed on Twitter, we had a little
1:27.7	discussion with one of the merchants that sent us some defective merchandise, which we will
1:33.4	never sell to any of you. We're making sure that the quality is up to par with the quality of the
1:40.2	podcast, and we're not going to settle for anything less. Well, that vendor made good on the order and sent us a couple of replacement t-shirts to make up for the mishap. One lucky listener who follows us on Instagram and happens to be up last night, won a spur-of-the-moment giveaway for that t-shirt. So congratulations to Zarr 0406. The first ever sort and scale t-shirt is on its way to you. For the rest of you,
2:02.6	if you're not following us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and Google Plus, you might be
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