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This Jungian Life Podcast

Episode 46 - Hiding

This Jungian Life Podcast

Joseph Lee, Deborah Stewart, Lisa Marchiano

Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.72.1K Ratings

🗓️ 14 February 2019

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Many a fairy tale features hiding as a strategic defense.  Jack, of beanstalk fame, hides from the giant in order to survive and discover his treasure. We often hide when we feel small and life events and people feel big. Hiding can be a conscious decision, whether for fun, as in the game of hide and seek, or out of necessity, as Anne Frank’s family’s had to do. Hiding can also be an unconscious phenomenon, particularly if there has been trauma, in order to protect the inviolable life of the soul. How, then, does an individual come out of hiding to discover him- or herself?

 

The Dream:

I was on a mountain trip in a van driven by a man with dreadlocks. He was driving myself and some others high up on the mountainside. It was a beautiful and clear winter day. I suddenly had a feeling that we were going to crash. It was a very windy road and he was driving so fast that he couldn't make the hairpin turn. We flew off the road and into mid-air. Life was suddenly in slow motion and I thought I should try to call my boyfriend while we were flying through the air and tell him what was happening. I awoke before the van started to fall.

 

Books:

The Inner World of Trauma and The Soul and Trauma by Donald Kalsched, PhD. Available on Amazon.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to this Jungian life.

0:03.0

Three good friends and Jungian analysts, Lisa Marciano, Deborah Stewart and Joseph Lee,

0:09.0

invite you to join them for an intimate and honest conversation that brings a psychological perspective to important issues of the day.

0:17.0

I'm Lisa Marciano and I'm a youngian analyst in Philadelphia.

0:22.0

I'm Joseph Lee and I'm a youngian analyst in Philadelphia. I'm Joseph Lee and I'm a young

0:24.6

analyst in Virginia Beach, Virginia. I'm Deborah Stewart, a youngian analyst on

0:30.3

Cape Cod. So today we're going to talk about a very subtle and delicate process that I think all of us are familiar

0:40.3

with and that we see throughout nature the impulse to hide.

0:47.0

When I get in touch with this in myself in a soulful way, the image of a sea anemone rises up and thinking about

0:56.8

you know that part of myself that if anything touches it that there's a part of me that will just, you know, back down to the bottom there and perhaps not come back up and relax into the water again until things feel very safe and very calm.

1:20.8

And I think about Jung talking about man's spiritual faculties being so delicate that they are like flowers that only bloom at night.

1:32.0

So the parts of us that are deeply vulnerable and perhaps not even

1:38.0

vulnerable but delicate that use hiding as a way of being in the world.

1:44.0

I wonder if there's something we can say about that.

1:47.0

I'm thinking about how hiding appears in fairy tales,

1:52.0

which I think of as our sort of psychic bones.

1:56.0

They've been around for thousands and thousands of years because they're deeply

2:00.4

embedded in the collective in the human psyche. So I go there first and think of

2:06.9

Jack after he made that really seemingly bad deal and sold the cow for some seeds and climbed up and there was the big

2:19.6

place in the air, house in the air with the giant and the giant's wife.

2:25.0

And he hid of when something is bigger than we are,

2:30.0

when we're up against something that's giant, and it's big and we're up against something that's giant and it's big and we're small, which of course is the story of

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