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That Sounds Fun with Annie F. Downs

Episode 459: Jasmine Holmes on Allowing Shame to Exist but Not Lead, Dealing with Shame in Parenting, and Hope Chests

That Sounds Fun with Annie F. Downs

Annie F. Downs

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.9 • 10.4K Ratings

🗓️ 13 April 2023

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

I can't wait for you to hear this episode. My new friend Jasmine Holmes is in the studio to talk all about what exactly shame is and the Gospel antidote for it. Jasmine's Christ-centered and Gospel-driven book, Never Cast Out is truly one of the finest books on shame I've ever read. It is powerful, and impactful, and incredibly brave. Don't miss Jasmine's next book Crowned with Glory which comes out this September. . . . .  Go to hereforyoutour.com to get your tickets to our upcoming tour this June! Want to gift a ticket to a friend? Go to anniefdowns.com/events for a printable Here For You gift ticket. . . . . Subscribe to Let's Read the Gospels with Annie F. Downs HERE. Go to https://anniefdowns.com/gospels to purchase your April Reading Plan or Let’s Read the Gospels Guidebook. . . . . Find more fun things on this episode by going to anniefdowns.com/thatsoundsfun. . . . . . Head to anniefdowns.com/books for more information and to sign up for the AFD Book of the Month. . . . . . Sign up to receive the AFD Week In Review email and ask questions to future guests! #thatsoundsfunpodcast . . . . . Thank you to our sponsors! BetterHelp Online Therapy: Visit betterhelp.com/THATSOUNDSFUN  today to get 10% off your first month. KiwiCo: Get 50% your first month on any crate line plus free shipping at kiwico.com/THATSOUNDSFUN. Liquid I.V.: Get 20% off when you go to LIQUIDIV.COM and use code THATSOUNDSFUN at checkout. Prose: Take your FREE in-depth hair quiz and get 15% off your first order today! Go to https://prose.com/thatsoundsfun. Hiya Health: Go to hiyahealth.com/thatsoundsfun to receive 50% off your first order. . . . . . If you’d like to partner with Annie as a sponsor for the That Sounds Fun podcast, fill out our Advertise With Us form! . . . . . NYTimes bestselling Christian author, speaker, and host of the That Sounds Fun Podcast, Annie F. Downs shares with you some of her favorite things: new books, faith conversations, entertainers not to miss, and interviews with friends. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi, friends. Welcome to another episode of That Sounds Fun. I'm your host, Annie F. Downs.

0:18.9

I'm really happy to be here with you today. We have got a great show in store for you.

0:23.0

Before we dive into today's conversation, I want to share about one of our amazing sponsors,

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BetterHelp. One of the things we're about as a friend group here at That Sounds Fun is pursuing

0:31.3

growth and learning together so we can be good friends to ourselves and each other.

0:35.9

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That's BetterHelpHELP.com slash That Sounds Fun. And today on the show, I get to talk with my

1:30.0

friend Jasmine Holmes. Okay, Jasmine L. Holmes is an author and professor based in Jackson,

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Mississippi. Her first two books are called Carved in Ebony and Mother to Son. I am so, so excited

1:40.6

to get to know her for us all to get to know her and share this conversation with you about her new

1:45.7

book Never Cast Out, How the Gospel Puts an End to the Story of Shame. Holmes shares her personal

1:51.7

experience of slowly lifting the cloak of shame that had become her near constant companion and

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