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The Charles C. W. Cooke Podcast

Episode 45: Where Did Identity Politics Come From? β€” with Yascha Mounk

The Charles C. W. Cooke Podcast

National Review

News, Politics, Music, Arts, Books, Music History

5 β€’ 1000 Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 17 October 2023

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

On episode 45, Charles admits that he missed the podcast's anniversary. Then he talks to Yascha Mounk about his new book, 'The Identity Trap: A Story of Ideas and Power in Our Time.' Among the topics discussed are where identity politics comes from, how it spread so fast over the last ten years, why it's a problem, whether opposition to it should be moral or practical or both, and what will happen if it's not checked.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to episode

0:04.0

Welcome to episode 45 of the Charles C.W. Cook podcast, the one strategically placed after my voice had come back.

0:34.1

Look, I got so busy with life that I forgot to note this podcast's anniversary, which passed unmarked and uncelebrated 17 days ago.

0:52.0

I guess in the long run, I'll pay for that. Had I remembered, I could have got a

1:00.4

small gift and organized a nice dinner out. But having forgotten, I'm now on the hook for

1:09.0

at least a spa day and probably a shopping expedition

1:12.8

as well as of course being reminded each and every time I publish a new episode

1:18.3

about that time I forgot about the anniversary until 17 whole days had passed

1:25.2

when I was putting on my headphones at the start of this session,

1:32.2

I could absolutely swear that I heard the podcast tell me in hush tones

1:37.9

that I never seemed to forget which NFL games are on which day,

1:42.0

which is, of course, true.

1:46.7

So I can only apologize and say that if it's any consolation,

1:51.2

I have greatly enjoyed the year that the podcast and I have spent together,

1:56.3

and I hope for many more in the future.

2:00.7

A lot of people have written to me since last episode

2:06.2

and asked for an account of the NFL game I took my dad to in London,

2:13.7

and you're in luck.

2:17.4

I wrote that trip up for the first issue of the new monthly national review

2:23.5

magazine and you can find that online if you have a subscription i'll put the link in the show notes

2:32.9

of this episode.

2:35.7

Long story short, it was terrific.

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