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🗓️ 3 September 2025
⏱️ 32 minutes
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Vanessa Van Edwards, a best-selling author and behavioral researcher on professional communication and leadership, joins the Journey To Launch podcast to discuss science-based communication insights and give actionable social skills tips to advance your career, relationships, and overall life.
We also chat about navigating stereotyping and biases , the importance of making definitive decisions about personal connections, leveraging cues to shape perception, and more.
More than 50 million people have seen Vanessa on YouTube and in her viral TED Talk. She has been featured in Entrepreneur, CNN, CBS, and more. Her book, “Captivate: The Science of Succeeding With People,” has been translated into 17+ languages and her latest book, “Cues: Master The Secret Language of Charismatic Communication," was an instant best seller.
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| 0:00.0 | We tend to as humans, this is one of my negativity biases, which is that when I'm with someone |
| 0:08.3 | and they behave badly, I define them as bad. |
| 0:12.0 | We don't do that to ourselves. |
| 0:13.1 | If we have a bad day, we think this was a bad day. |
| 0:15.8 | And so thinking, how can I like this person more also disengages our negativity bias a little |
| 0:20.6 | bit to think, |
| 0:21.3 | oh, okay, they had a bad day. We'll try again. |
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| 0:31.5 | expert who walks her talk, she helps brave journeyers like you, get out of debt, save, invest, and build real wealth. |
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| 0:52.2 | Hey, journeyer, a quick note, you will be listening to a rewind episode. That means this episode was previously aired months or years ago. I have hundreds and hundreds of episodes of the podcast. And so I will be sometimes replaying my favorite, favorite conversations for you to maybe listen to the first time or re-listen to again. |
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| 1:51.7 | Okay, let's hop into the episode. |
| 1:55.8 | Hey, journeyers. Welcome to the Journey to Launch podcast. I'm really excited to speak to today's guest, Vanessa Van Edwards. She is a multi-time bestselling author and renowned behavioral researcher on professional communication and leadership. More than 50 million people have seen Vanessa on YouTube and in her viral TED Talk. She has been featured in |
| 2:18.7 | numerous publications, including entrepreneur, CNN, CBS, and more. Her book Captivate has been |
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