In this episode of Startus for Usvus, Rob and I are going to be having a casual conversation about what's going on.

This is Startus for Usper, episode 438.

Welcome to Startups for the Restifice.

The Podcast helps developers, designers, and entrepreneurs be awesome at building, launching, and growing software products.

Whether you built your first product or you're just thinking about it. I'm Mike. And I'm Rob.

And we're here to share our experiences to help you avoid the same mistakes we've made. What's going on this week, Rob?

You know, I just felt like we haven't done kind of a casual episode in a while where you and I talk about things that are going on. We often get stuck in this,

in this odd place where we might have a lot going on, but it's not necessarily stuff you can

talk about or feel comfortable broadcasting to tens of thousands of people. So I feel like we're

at a good place. You know, we're obviously pre-recording this episode because it's going to go live

after MicroConf, I think the week after,

and we'll be, you know, we're recording it the week before just because so much is going on

that, that whole week. Since we do growth and starter now, I mean, the week is just torched for me.

Like, when do you fly out and when do you fly back? I fly out on Friday, so I get in at like

8 o'clock or so on Friday night, and then I don't leave

until the following Friday. I think my flight's at like 12 or 1 or something like that.

Yeah. So it's a full-on week for you. Mine is, I go Saturday to Friday. So it's only six days,

but still, A, six days, seven days in Vegas, too long. B, pretty much the whole time, I don't know about you, but all I'm thinking about is, what am I forgetting? What am I missing this year? Oh, yeah, we need that opening slideshow, you know, for the first 10 minutes of each conference. I need to update that. I need to, you know, there's all these little things and then stuff just really ramps up Sunday. So is that how you, like, do you, honest question, do you sleep very well at,

at microcos typically? I haven't slept well in like four or five years. Yeah, it's a really fair

question. Yeah, you're the wrong person to ask. I just don't, because I tend to sleep well. I don't have many, you know, sleep problems in

general, aside from grinding my teeth, which is, you know, irritating as heck for Sherry. But,

but yeah, microconf, I always struggle. And I think it's just how much I have in my, going on in my mind,

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