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Episode 438: Anna Sale

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Education, Arts, Books, News

4.71.9K Ratings

🗓️ 5 May 2021

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Anna Sale is the host of Death, Sex & Money. Her new book is Let’s Talk About Hard Things.“What hard conversations can do is—you can witness what's hard. You can be with what's hard. Admit what's hard. That can be its own relief. … Some hard conversations … are successful when they end in a place that's like, Oh, we're not going to agree on this. … I think you can get used to the feeling of feeling out of control and that makes them less scary.” Thanks to Mailchimp for sponsoring this week's episode. Show notes: @annasale annasale.com Sale on Longform Podcast 07:00 Let’s Talk About Hard Things (Simon & Schuster • 2021) 10:00 Sale's Death, Sex & Money archive Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey, before we get going, I'm your co-host, Aaron Lammer.

0:04.0

I want to tell you about a podcast.

0:06.0

It's actually a podcast I made.

0:08.0

I've spent the last couple years working on this investigative mini-series about this

0:12.1

guy Gerald Cotton.

0:14.2

He was the founder of the largest bitcoin exchange in Canada until in December 2018, he died

0:20.7

on his honeymoon trip in India.

0:22.8

You might have heard about what happened next.

0:25.4

No one could find his passwords, and as a result, over $200 million worth of his customers

0:30.9

money was frozen.

0:32.9

But here's the thing.

0:34.8

Not everyone believes that Jerry is really dead.

0:38.2

I'm not even sure what I believe.

0:40.1

So I made this show to try to figure it out.

0:42.2

It's called Exit Scam.

0:43.8

You can subscribe right now.

0:45.7

The first episode is out May 10th.

0:48.5

That's this Monday.

0:49.9

Again, it's Exit Scam in the podcast, Appier Choice, or on the web at ExitScam.show.

0:56.4

I also want to tell you about our sponsor this week, Case Fleet.

0:59.6

You're going to hear more about them in the middle.

1:02.4

But I want to say that I actually used Case Fleet while I was preparing Exit Scam.

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