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Hello and welcome to the long form podcast. It's another Wednesday, another new show,

and I'm your co-host Evan Ratliffe. With me are Max Linsky and Aaron Lammer. They are the

proprietors of longform.org. I am a reporter and author of a book called The Mastermind.

Max and Aaron, how are you guys? I'm good. I'm good. I'm also I'm also well and it makes me so happy

when you follow through on our plan to ID ourselves at the top of the show. Make me happy too.

I'm trying to stick to it. Trying to stick to it. We all know that you're going to be the one

of the three of us that sticks to things and I appreciate it. Who is on the show this week? This

week I talked to Brooke Jarvis. She is a freelancer. She's based in Seattle. She's written wonderful

long features for the New York Times magazine where she's a regular contributor to the New Yorker,

to California Sunday, to the activist magazine where I used to work. She covers a really wide

range of topics, often including science. She writes about immigration. She writes about issues

facing Native Americans. But the through line for me is that she always finds these really close-up

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