Welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love hosted by Richard Osler.

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at Amazon and Desert Book. My guest on today, who's in my home on a Sunday afternoon,

we're both sitting here just coming out of church and ties. I wish you could see us. We both have

shirts and ties on. We look very official. Is my friend Calvin Smith. Welcome to the podcast, Calvin.

Thank you for having me. Calvin's going to tell his story as a gay Latter-day Saint. And just by way of

introduction, the end story or the hope for Calvin, and I've learned this as we visited,

he is just graduated from BYU, and his plan is to be an enogamous same-sex relationship.

And so both Calvin and I realize that path is outside the doctrine of our church, but it's the reality

that some LGBTQ Latter-day Saints feel as their path.

And I've learned to just honor that and let people self-determine their path and keep them

in my love and support and prayers and leave any judging to our Savior.

So this is a little bit about Elder Cook's talk as unity and diversity.

But my hope in having Calvin share his stories, it'll be

helpful for all of us to help us come together as same human family and better support people

like Calvin that both want to be, spend his life with someone in a same-sex marriage, and participate

in the church as best he can. He knows that he may lose his church membership

over this decision, but he would still like to attend our church. And I hope that at the local

level, that we create a feeling like Christ model that everybody's welcome needed and a feeling

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