Welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love hosted by Richard Osler.

My guest on today's podcast is my friend Blair Osler.

Welcome to the podcast.

It's good to be here.

Blair, as listeners may know, is returning for her fourth time.

She was on episode 24.

She's been on episode 335 and episode 396.

And every time Blair comes on, I learn something, and she has great insights.

And so she has written a book.

And we both felt it makes sense for Blair to come back on the podcast and talk about her book.

And our hope is that Blair can speak for herself, that this podcast just helps bring us together as the same human family.

If you're a queer Latter-day Saint, the things Blair share will be helpful for you if you're a local

leader of parent and have parent responsibility or leadership responsibility for LGBT

Laturday Saints, including those that are closeted, that the things Blair shares in this podcast

and the things Blair has written in her book will help you help others. Is that okay for an introduction? Absolutely.

No, I'm thrilled to be on here. I didn't realize I thought this was my third time on here,

but you're right. It has been four times. And man, I'm feeling like, I'm just feeling really

grateful for the opportunity to come back on again. And, well, you have good stuff to say every time.

Blair, as I think our listeners may know, even though we share the same last name, we are probably

related, but we're not like first or second cousin, so we haven't ever claimed to be closely

related, although there is somebody I deeply admire respect and really

look up to when I stepped in this place, Blair and her husband were and continue to be kind of

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