intelligence community's effectiveness?

I would ask you, sir, can you show any evidence that somehow we would make our nation safer?

If you put your political litmus test and this idea of bringing trauma to the federal

workforce by taking the intelligence community, which has been supported, And this idea of bringing trauma to the federal workforce

by taking the intelligence community,

which has been supported on a bipartisan basis,

year in and year out,

and somehow breaking it up and spreading it hither and yon,

just for a political purpose,

how does that make our nation safer?

Senator, I never proposed that, and the president has disassociated himself from Project

2025. It's a mischaracterization of my role in our...

Okay, good, we're here on the record. You're going to commit to make sure,

but, you know, I would argue you have to make a business case before you start breaking

up the government.

I'm all for effectiveness.

But you're going to be willing here to commit not to undermine our national intelligence

community by arbitrarily trying to break them up and spread them around just because you want

to blow up the federal workforce in this region? Yes, Senator.

There's no policy process that the Trump administration had done is that producing arbitrary results.

And let me speak to the question that you raised with regard to my comments about the bureaucracy.

They were specifically in reference to the weaponized bureaucracy that we've seen certainly

...