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Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Episode 418: Bree and Kit, Married LDS Couple of 40+ Years, Bree’s Gender Incongruence

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.8839 Ratings

🗓️ 9 June 2021

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Summary

My friends Bree and Kit share their story as a couple with Bree’s gender incongruence/gender dysphoria. Bree talks about the shame, guilt and fear of 40+ years dealing with this and then eventually coming out to Kit. Kit and Bree talk about how their marriage is now even stronger and how they are moving forward. Bree talks about what it is like to deal with gender incongruence and the relief, healing of being more authentic. Bree talks about remaining an active Latter-day Saint and a recent Stake Leader Training where Bree spoke about being transgender and how to better minister to LGBTQ Latter-day Saints. Bree is on the Board at NorthStar (see https://www.northstarlds.org/bree-bruce) and talks about the healing role of NorthStar. Thank you Bree and Kit for being on the podcast and sharing your story. You help all of us to better understand that gender incongruence is real and how we can better support—and better see the contribution of transgender Latter-day Saints. ** Please Check Out My New Book At: ** Deseret Book: www.deseretbook.com/p/listen-learn-and-love-embracing-lgbtq-latter-day-saints Amazon: www.amazon.com/dp/1462135773

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0:00.0

Welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love, hosted by Richard Osler.

0:11.1

The topic for this podcast is gender incongruence, which is under the umbrella of transgender

0:16.1

or gender dysphoria.

0:18.8

We have a couple here in the podcast studio. It's not really a studio. It's my front

0:23.5

room to talk about their journey. Each of these stories is different. As I meet with people that

0:30.0

experience gender dysphoria or gender incongruence, I realize that every story is different.

0:35.6

And this story will be different. And that's one of the things we're

0:38.2

trying to bring here is just as many stories as possible so that we can come together and

0:44.5

better support people. When we know better, we do better. But I've learned in my own life that I

0:50.0

have to hear stories and real life people experiencing these things and walking this road.

0:55.3

That helps me to sort of get closer to the finish line of understanding people that

1:00.2

experience gender dysphoria, gender incongruent.

1:03.0

So with that introduction, we started with prayer and I have two active and committed

1:08.1

Latter-day Saints of my friends, Bree and Kit.

1:11.8

Welcome to the podcast.

1:13.5

Thanks, Richard.

1:14.6

Thanks for having us on.

1:16.2

We're having some mic problems, so they're sharing a mic.

1:19.3

So there may be just a little bit of lag as the mic is moved from guest to guest.

1:23.5

But Bree and Kit have been married for 41 years.

1:27.2

They live in Davis County.

1:28.7

They have four children, 11 grandchildren.

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