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Hello and thank you for listening to the history of World War II podcast.

Episode 417 interview with Craig Nelson about his latest book, V is for Victory.

Franklin Roosevelt's American Revolution and the triumph of World War II.

Mr. Nelson, the author of Pearl Harbor from Infamy to Greatness and the first heroes, the extraordinary story of the Doodle Rade, America's First World War II victory, comes on to explain how President Franklin Roosevelt not only brought the country out of the Great Depression, but helped steer a chorus that would revitalize the country's armed forces,

readying for a day that all hoped would never come. He also forced his fellow citizens to ask themselves what kind of country did they want to be? Mr. Nelson, thank you very much for joining us.

It's an honor. This is one of my favourite podcasts. You're doing a fantastic job.

Thank you sir. I'm just trying to keep up with you. So I'm so glad that you agreed to come on the show because as of yet, believe it or not, I haven't really covered the home front in the United States yet.

But after you're after reading your book, I think it's fair to say that President Roosevelt FDR found the country one way when he first came into office and he left it very different, not unlike Augustus in the city of Rome.

I was hoping you could expand on that about generally what your book is about and what FDR was trying to do.

Well, I think the best way to understand this book, even though it's called Beers for Victory, Franklin Roosevelt's American Revolution and the travel road to the real way to think about it is that it's really about Americans putting aside all their differences and rising as a powerful group to address an existential threat, meaning both the Great Depression and Adolf Hitler.

And Roosevelt was the depending on how you want to look at it, the circus ringmaster or the or the Wiley politician. You can look at it either way who saw and sort of inspired all this.

But it's really the sort of miraculous part of this story is that in 1933 when he comes into office, it's pretty much the worst moment in American history.

Really 25% unemployment. People going through garbage dumps, looking for things to eat. People tearing up pieces of wood in their house to be able to make a fire. I mean, really excruciating.

And he pushes through all this legislation that fixes most of it, but doesn't fix the unemployment. And then in 1938, Hitler gets appeased by England and France with pieces of Czechoslovakia.

And Roosevelt reacts very harshly to this and thinks this is really terrible and really sees Hitler as an imminent threat to the Western coming from.

So he puts into the works this program to dramatically expand airplane production in both the for both the United States and for England and France who are allied at the time.

And this little thing becomes the seed of the arsenal of democracy, which is the secret weapon that beat the Nazis in World War II.

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