Episode 417 - Dr. Tony Dice - The Journey From Navy SEAL to Meth Addict to World Class Counselor
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🗓️ 24 November 2025
⏱️ 145 minutes
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Summary
As a Navy SEAL, therapist, paramedic, and firefighter, he's lived at the extremes of chaos and control—from overseas deployments to firefighting, from decorated service to deep meth addiction. His rock-bottom moment came when the pull of meth nearly prevented him from saving his young son during a public health crisis—a crisis that forced him to confront the war within. Dr. Tony Dice is now the CEO of Bishop & Dice Defense LLC, empowering veterans, law enforcement, and first responders to overcome trauma and reclaim their lives.
Emerging from addiction, Tony built a life rooted in truth, accountability, and recovery, creating the Holistic Change Model, a non-drug, evidence-informed approach that blends clinical insight with 12-step principles. His memoir, After the Trident, shares how this model helps heal the "invisible wounds" of those who serve, offering practical guidance for sustainable recovery and long-term life transformation.
Dr. Dice: Dr. Dice: https://linktr.ee/dr.dice
Bishop and Dice Defense: https://bishopdicedefense.com/
After the Trident: https://www.amazon.com/After-Trident-Battle-Secrets-Addiction-ebook/dp/B0FDX5FHV6
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| 0:03.0 | Gun runs, north and south, west of the smoke. |
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| 0:11.0 | I'm looking at danger close now. |
| 0:13.0 | I'm all winter, baby. Give it to me. I need it. |
| 0:16.0 | You're cleared hot. |
| 0:17.0 | Copy, cleared hot. |
| 0:19.0 | You don't do the headset, the cool guy. |
| 0:21.9 | I don't want to look like that. |
| 0:22.6 | So I used to do the headsets. |
| 0:24.1 | Right. |
| 0:24.7 | And it's pretty cool because it can, because it's so close to your ears, it'll, like, draw you into the conversation. |
| 0:30.8 | Yeah. |
| 0:31.7 | But it's also in ways that I have a hard time describing, it's a little bit restrictive to you because you'll feel it tugging on you sometimes. And then why did we take them off for the first time? Do we have a guess that was wearing like a cowboy hat or something? I honestly, I don't remember. You know I don't pay attention. That is actually one of the truer statements. I'll catch him over there. It doesn't adjust at all. That's the height you sit at. |
| 0:54.7 | There's seven levers on the bottom. I know. I don't know what any of them do. Just move the microphone |
| 0:58.4 | around for you. No, I forget why we took him off the first time and it just became comfortable. |
| 1:04.0 | He keeps it on because he can manage to make sure that the audio level is like once in a while. |
| 1:08.4 | And I use that term lightly. Every once in a while, he'll have like a, hey guys, talk a little bit louder. It's because everybody's pretty good about keeping it close. I don't, I'm not, I can't even look at it. About F bombs, can we drop? It's the internet. You can talk however you want to about whatever you want. We can talk about hypothetically flags. |
| 1:28.3 | We can talk about whatever you want, man. |
| 1:31.3 | It's up to you. |
| 1:32.3 | First question is easy though. |
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