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The Nothing Is Wasted Podcast

Episode 415 - Discovering Hope in the Shadows of Grief with Kurt and Denette Schaer

The Nothing Is Wasted Podcast

Davey Blackburn and Aubrey Sampson

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.9 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 5 February 2026

⏱️ 82 minutes

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Summary

How can you believe you are highly favored when you experience great loss? What does it look like to trust that God still loves you when tragedy strikes your family?Kurt and Denette Schaer had already seen how God can redeem suffering—having walked through Kurt’s infidelity and experiencing radical healing in their marriage. But even that couldn’t fully prepare them for the heartbreak they would face years later with the loss of their teenage son, Logan. The grief they endured was unimaginable, and yet God sustained them through it. Their journey also led Denette to wrestle deeply with the idea of favor—what it meant for her family in the midst of profound loss—which she explores in her book Highly Favored?: Discovering Hope in the Shadows of Grief.In this episode, Davey sits down with Kurt and Denette to talk about staying faithful in difficult circumstances, the different ways grief can manifest within a marriage, and how our testimonies can become powerful tools in the healing journeys of others.If you’ve ever wondered how God’s favor rests upon you in seasons of pain, this conversation will remind you that even in difficulty and heartache, His love and favor endure. Website: brokenforbetter.com Instagram: instagram.com/brokenforbetter Facebook: facebook.com/brokenforbetter Book: Highly Favored?: Discovering Hope in the Shadows of Grief https://amzn.to/4nYDVjO Stories matter. They inspire, uplift, and remind us we’re not alone in our pain. Hope in the Valley: 42 Days of Healing Through the Psalms After Loss, Grief, and Tragedy is a new devotional featuring real stories from the Nothing Is Wasted community—offering strength, comfort, and hope in life’s hardest moments. Order your copy today at: www.nothingiswasted.com/hopeinthevalley Looking for help in navigating the valley of pain and trauma? Our Nothing is Wasted coaches can help: www.nothingiswasted.com/coaching Want a pathway through your pain? The Pain to Purpose Course can lead you through all you've been through: www.nothingiswasted.com/paintoppurpose Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Nothing is Wasted podcast, where we meet you in your pain and help you discover a pathway through.

0:09.6

No matter what you've faced or what you're walking through now, we believe your story isn't over.

0:15.0

Each week, you'll hear powerful conversations with people who've partnered with God to reclaim their stories of trauma, loss, and heartbreak, and we'll chat with Christian experts who offer wisdom and

0:26.2

practical tools for healing. This is a place of hope, redemption, and the reminder that

0:31.5

even in your darkest moments, God is still writing your story, because with him, nothing is wasted.

0:39.0

I'm your host, Davey Blackburn.

0:50.6

Well, hello, hello, welcome to the Nothing is Wasted podcast.

0:54.0

If you're listening to this on a podcast platform, you might notice that it sounds a little different.

0:58.0

Maybe some background noise.

1:00.0

There's a reason for that.

1:01.0

And if you're watching on YouTube, you know the reason for that because I'm not in my normal setting.

1:05.0

In fact, maybe if you're watching on YouTube, you can guess whereabouts I am in the world. If you guessed

1:12.5

Canada, you are correct. And I just pointed to, if you were listening to this on a podcast

1:18.5

platform, you didn't see that I pointed to the Tim Hortons in the background. I'm actually in the

1:23.8

Moncton, New Brunswick Airport. I'm flying back from a conference that I led in Sussex, New Brunswick.

1:30.9

And on the campus of Kingswood University, led a conference for pastors and ministry leaders,

1:35.8

for the Wesleyan Church, the area pastors called the Atlantic District.

1:41.5

And what a sacred time it was, what a sweet time it was.

1:46.2

But the show must go on.

1:51.7

I had to get some intro. Intros recorded for these upcoming podcast episodes that we're releasing for our team so they can get those edited. And the only margin that I had was in the airport

1:56.7

waiting for my flight. So here we are. We're going to do this while there's some background noise.

2:02.4

Fortunately, Moncton is a small airport, not a very loud airport, but you'll hear some

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