Episode 414 - Tomorrow Needs You with Naeem Fazal

The Nothing Is Wasted Podcast

Davey Blackburn and Aubrey Sampson

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.9 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 29 January 2026

⏱️ 75 minutes

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WARNING: This episode contains conversations about suicide and suicide ideation and may not be suitable for all listeners/viewers. How do you experience Jesus fully after coming to Christ? How can you continue to experience Him when life is full of pain and difficulties?Naeem Fazal has an incredibly powerful testimony of how he first encountered Christ. Born into a Muslim family, Naeem experienced a supernatural experience as a young adult that forever changed the trajectory of his life. The cost was significant as he grew to know Jesus more intimately—eventually becoming a pastor—and faced being disowned by his loved ones. Later, he walked through his father’s attempted suicide and the sudden loss of his brother-in-law, moments that ultimately allowed him to show his family how they, too, could encounter Jesus in a personal and transformative way. In his bookTomorrow Needs You: Seeing Beauty When You Feel Hopeless, he explores how fear can be our greatest enemy and how life with Jesus leads us into a new way of living—not from fear, but from love.In this episode, Davey and Naeem talk about the supernatural and spiritual warfare, the differences between the Western and Eastern Christian experience, and how to navigate the estrangement that can arise when you choose to follow Christ.If you’ve ever longed for a deeper connection with Jesus in the midst of hardship, this conversation will encourage you that—even in your wrestlings—you can find the intimacy with Him that your heart desires. Website: www.naeemfazal.orgInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/naeemfazal/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/naeem.fazal.3 Book: Tomorrow Needs You: Seeing Beauty When You Feel Hopelesshttps://amzn.to/3KvfM63Stories matter. They inspire, uplift, and remind us we’re not alone in our pain. Hope in the Valley: 42 Days of Healing Through the Psalms After Loss, Grief, and Tragedy is a new devotional featuring real stories from the Nothing Is Wasted community—offering strength, comfort, and hope in life’s hardest moments. Order your copy today at: www.nothingiswasted.com/hopeinthevalley Looking for help in navigating the valley of pain and trauma? Our Nothing is Wasted coaches can help: www.nothingiswasted.com/coaching Want a pathway through your pain? The Pain to Purpose Course can lead you through all you've been through: www.nothingiswasted.com/paintoppurpose Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Nothing is Wasted podcast, where we meet you in your pain and help you discover a pathway through.
0:09.6	No matter what you've faced or what you're walking through now, we believe your story isn't over.
0:15.0	Each week, you'll hear powerful conversations with people who've partnered with God to reclaim their stories of trauma, loss, and heartbreak, and we'll chat with Christian experts who offer wisdom and
0:26.2	practical tools for healing. This is a place of hope, redemption, and the reminder that
0:31.5	even in your darkest moments, God is still writing your story, because with him, nothing is wasted. I'm your host, Davey Blackburn.
0:56.8	I'm your host, Davey Blackburn. Well, hello, hello, welcome to the Nothing Is Wasted podcast. I'm so grateful that you're joining me again today.
1:01.2	Man, I'm grateful that you guys join us every single week to hear these stories.
1:14.4	Men and women of faith who are exercising resilience, hope in the midst of all hope seeming lost. And if you're here and you are feeling hopeless, I'm praying that you can borrow the hope of the men and women who have gone before
1:22.4	you through this podcast. We have had over 400 episodes of the Nothing is Wasted podcast, which means
1:29.7	400 plus stories of people who are saying, hey, do not give up hope. Hang on. God's coming.
1:39.1	He's got this. And I don't mean this as a pithy thing. I mean this. These are stories coming from the depths of crisis,
1:48.4	from moments where they've been on their back and they don't, they do not think they're going to make it
1:52.8	through. And yet God reaches in. And he does not waste our pain. That's what the nothing is wasted
1:58.4	podcast is all about. And friends, these are stories
2:02.2	that follow the pattern of many stories, and that's that they don't start in a church pew.
2:09.4	They don't start with a quiet prayer. They actually start with a considerable amount of resistance,
2:15.6	with skepticism, with a posture that isn't a
2:21.3	bended knee, but it's a clenched fist. And sometimes they start with a moment that's so terrifying,
2:27.7	you can't even explain it, except to say something was after me. Someone came for me. And that's the case in today's conversation.
2:38.3	Because my guess, Naim Fazal, did not grow up with Jesus language, if you will. He didn't
2:46.9	grow up in a Christian subculture. He grew up in Kuwait in a Muslim home navigating multiple worlds.
2:53.8	On one hand, Pakistani roots, a Middle Eastern context, an Indian school, on another hand, an English curriculum, on yet another hand,
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