Episode 41: Cold War II — with Niall Ferguson

The Charles C. W. Cooke Podcast

National Review

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🗓️ 15 September 2023

⏱️ 51 minutes

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On episode 41, Charles talks to the historian Niall Ferguson about Cold War II (not Cold War 2.0). Among the questions asked are: What is a Cold War and why are we in one? Is China now more ideological than it was twenty years ago? Should America be taking more drastic action at home and abroad? What sort of tools should the United States be creating? Is Ukraine a distraction from the real threat? Will the Chinese turn on their government? Who will win the battle this time around?

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0:00.0	Welcome to episode
0:04.0	Welcome to episode 41 of the Charles C.W. Cook podcast nestled in between the Jaguars win against the Colts and the Jaguars game against the Kansas City Chiefs this Sunday.
0:36.0	Last weekend, I took a great trip out to Indianapolis, which I really do like
0:42.5	as a city. It's friendly and walkable, and it's home to St. Elmo's Steakhouse, which is always a treat,
0:52.4	and which was this time too.
0:55.8	In addition to the game at Lucas Oil Stadium, we went to a AAA baseball game at Victory Field,
1:02.7	which is a lovely little ballpark. I've actually been there before.
1:09.0	Given what happened to the Cleveland Indians, now the Cleveland Guardians,
1:13.6	it was funny seeing a team named the Indians play in a professional baseball game,
1:19.4	but, well, they play in Indianapolis,
1:24.0	so they can't really change the name, can they?
1:28.7	It would be like the Los Angeles, Los Angeles
1:31.7	deciding that Los Angeleser was an offensive name.
1:36.2	Okay?
1:37.2	Now what?
1:39.3	In that respect, the Indians are like the Utah Uts.
1:53.4	In 2021, Duval County, Florida, near me, voted on the question of whether to change the name of Andrew Jackson High School. The final tally was four to three against, which whatever one thinks of Andrew Jackson,
2:03.6	and I'm not a big fan, makes a certain sense when you consider that Andrew Jackson High School
2:10.6	is in Jacksonville.
2:12.6	Are we going to change that too?
2:15.6	Probably not, right?
2:19.5	Right.
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