It's Wednesday the 27th of September 2017. I'm Martin yelling. He's Tom Williams and this is episode 403 of Marathon Talk. I'm going to On this week's show the Berlin Marathon was a fascinating race with

Elie Kip Chogae coming out on top but not in the way we expected. We look back

at some of the stories from the German capital.

When should race medics step in, we ask,

after the Warsaw Marathon?

Earlier, we say, how can we better represent East African athletes

Michael Crawley explores training talk, looks at holding it together

when the weather fairies play games, you rate your run, share your races on the list of

launch pad and step on the podium and Tom

speaks to Rowan Ardile. Tom Williams, what you've been up to?

Oh I tell you what it was funny last week so remember last week we recorded with

my old man didn't we and we were down here and

we was quite late.

Enjoyed it.

Enjoyed it with Brian actually, always good to catch up with your dad.

It was fun wasn't it?

Some positive feedback about Brian's engagement as well.

Bless him, we'll give my pay rise.

And he, so we were chatting weren't we about, I think we said that

Aston and Helen had been ill and Rosie was alright.

You were going to go lie down in a darkened room somewhere for a very long time.

I went inside, lay down like really late.

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