Bainveindizos, that's California for welcome to the Get This 400th episode of National Review's Radio Free California podcast.

I'm Will Swain, President of the California Policy Center.

You can find my colleagues and me at California Policy Center.org.

You can find my friend and co-host, David Bonson, right here.

A little worse, perhaps, for the wear and tear of 400 episodes of Radio Free California,

though you make it look easy.

Always grateful that you're here, buddy. Can I tell people who you are? Because they probably don't know after 400 episodes. Yeah, please do. I don't even know who I am anymore. He's an economist, the host of the Capital Record podcast, the author of the book, full-time, work in the meaning of life. And, of of course he's founder of the eponymous investment from the Bonson group.

Hello, David, 400 episodes.

Well, congratulations, Will, 400.

That's, I guess, more than I thought we had done.

And I'm marginally more informed than I was when we started.

Thank you so much.

It's funny you say that because I feel

bummer. I'm regressing, so I'm glad that you're going the other way. That's good. That's encouraging.

I really quickly, just before the mics were warmed up, I went and looked at any email exchanges

we had in August of 2017. So here

we are at the end of July, coming into August, and it was in 2017 when we actually launched

the first episode. We've been talking about it since, gosh, I think late 2016, with our friend

Jack Fowler, who was then publisher of National Review. I think it was publisher of National Review, or he moved on already to NRI? No, at that point he was still publisher, but getting

ready to move to a different role. But Jack has been, you know, vital at National Review, but certainly

it was vital for us starting Radio Free California. And I would add is vital in so many other things too,

because most people do not ever get to know a person in their life as wonderful as Jack Fowler.

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