Episode 40: What a Disgrace

Conversations with People Who Hate Me

Dylan Marron & TED

Society & Culture

4.7 • 1.9K Ratings

🗓️ 9 March 2022

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Two colleagues speak for the first time since their falling-out in a text message.

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Conversations with People Who Hate Me is part of the TED Audio Collective. Credits: Dylan Marron (creator, producer, host), Vincent Cacchione (audio mixer), Phillip Blackowl (logo designer), Mindy Tucker (logo photographer). Theme song: "These Dark Times" by Caged Animals.

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0:00.0	Ted Audio Collective, I'm like I hope these guys don't keep these texts but they
0:10.2	probably do. But here we are. Now let's just make a podcast about it. That's what we'll do.
0:17.4	Yeah. Hey and welcome back to conversations with people who hate me. The show where we have
0:38.2	difficult conversations about complicated topics. Now to get it out of the way here is the
0:43.6	obligatory 15 second plug for my book and I'm going to go fast. Okay, the book. It is also called
0:49.4	conversations with people who hate me. It's a way to take this show and put it in your pocket. And
0:53.9	at the risk of devolving into complete narcissism, I would like to relate to you. A compliment someone
0:59.3	gave to the book. The amazing Nora McInerney, the writer and host of terrible thanks for asking an
1:05.0	amazing podcast. Please go listen to it said that this book quote offers us hope and a path towards
1:11.4	finding connection and meaning in spite of and through our differences end quote. The preorder
1:17.8	link is in the description of this episode and that's it. It's done. See, that's a bet.
1:22.6	All right, let's get to the podcast that you came here to listen to. In today's episode,
1:28.4	two professional colleagues, Deanna and Denise speak to each other for the first time since they
1:34.2	had a falling out in a text exchange. And that one sentence summary is a totally gross oversimplification
1:42.2	of this story. This story is about a lot of things. It's about race for one thing. Deanna is black
1:50.3	and Denise is white, but even distilling them just to their race is also an oversimplification
1:57.6	because this episode is also about how we experience big national events differently and how we
2:04.4	express our experience of those big events differently on social media. And it's also about how
2:11.3	we mend broken relationships after someone severed those ties. And it is also about a specific
2:18.2	creative community and how it responded to the summer of Black Lives Matter protests in 2020.
2:24.8	So this story is about a lot of things. And as with any interpersonal drama between people who
2:31.0	know each other, there is a lot of context, a lot of moving parts, which is why you're going to hear
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