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Say, is the black powers of our forefathers make us strong.

Hail.

Hail the Lord's of Darkness.

Remember this?

This is from an episode of The X-Files that first aired in 1995.

It's called D. D.Hand D. Verlest?

It's German, and it means the hand that wounds.

And this X-Files episode made a very big impression on our guest today.

Hi, my name is Whitney Phillips. I am an assistant professor of digital platforms and media ethics

in the School of Journalism and Communication at the University of Oregon. And I am the co-author

of the Shadow Gospel, How Anti-Liberal Demonologyology possessed U.S. religion, media, and politics.

If you were to draw a line between what I do now as a researcher and a teacher,

I suspect that the X-Files is the answer for a lot of it.

After the title credits, we watch a gaggle of teens heading into the forest

at night, where one leads the rest in a ritual. We hear chanting from demonic voices somewhere

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