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As you know, we talked with one of your former students, Dr. Sarah Place the other day, and we're trying to, you know, Zach and I kind of inhabit this athletic nutrition sphere, and we're both

big proponents of, you know, animal products in the diet. And I think there's a really big sort of misconception on what we know about how they're raised,

what their impact is, how essential they are to the human diet.

And I think there's a lot of, you know, currently there's a big sort of push to try to drive

us away from eating animal products and, you know, push more and more to a plant-based sort of push to try to drive us away from eating animal products and you know push more and more to a

plant-based sort of future and I think a lot of that is based upon some

impact on the environment which I think is is the data on that I think is unclear and I think

there's been a loud narrative that says that the best thing you can do for the environment is to not eat a steak. And I think there's, you know, I think people like you can help set the record straight on that. And I know you call yourself the greenhouse gas guru. So my assumption is you know a little bit about greenhouse gases. And so can you just kind of tell us a little bit about your background, you know, what you've been studying and then we can kind of get into some of these topics and hopefully clear some of the confusion up or at least give people some more data to use when they make their decisions. Yeah, maybe we first introduce ourselves really quickly. So my name is Frank Mitlner and Zach. Who is Zach? I'm right here. You're Zach. And what's your last name? Bitter.

Bitter, okay. And where are you located? I'm actually in Phoenix, but I was actually in Davis for about a year

and then Sacramento for a year and a half, so I was kind of in your neck in the woods for a while.

Okay. All right and and you are

i'm in i'm actually in southern california in orange county and uh so but from all the places i was

actually born in what i'm guessing is your home country germany oh you were okay i was born in i was born in

host germany and i just listening to your last name and a bit of your accent i'm gonna'm going to go out on the limb and say, you have some familiar area of that part of the world.

Yes, I do, I do, I do.

Yeah, I'm a native from Germany.

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