Hello, welcome to another Scientology Fair game. The podcast. Hello, Mikey. Hello,

Lily. How are you today? I'm gonna start answering. Yeah, I'm going to start answering

like that. Yeah, yeah. Someone said to me the other day, I'm COVID good. Right. I said,

well, that's appropriate. That sounds good. Yes. Speaking of COVID, would you like to introduce

our next guest? I would love to. I keep saying next guests like we're on a couch and we

have several guests a day. We don't. Right. This week, this week's guest, there we go. I would

love to because she literally is, I know you, Leah and me, she is one of our favoritist

people in the whole world. And we came to know her from the A&E aftermath show and she has

become, I consider a personal friend her and her family, her kids, her husband, everybody.

It is with, with great joy that we welcome Devon Graham Hammons, our champion, our Guardian

Angel, our hero when she was an A&E, she oversaw the aftermath show. Hi, Devon. Hi, friends.

How are you? Devon, what was your, what was your official title at A&E? Because I want

to talk about the first time that I met me. Well, I call, call you. Do you remember that?

I do. I do. So what was your official title there at A&E? My official title was VP of programming.

And so we did both development and current and I was a VP of programming there. And for

those not in the biz, you were the vice president of the shows, you know, there's a whole team

of us and we all have our own projects. And at any one time, you may have a couple of

series. And do you want to tell your story? You want me to tell my perspective of how I

got to work with you? I think it's best if you tell the story because I'm sure people

are tired of hearing my voice. But Devon, how did you get picked to do, how did you,

how did you end up with us? How did you get stuck with us, Devon?

It is, I consider it one of the great good fortunes in my life. I actually was out. I'm

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