Hey everyone, you're listening to Episode 39 of Hurtle, a podcast that talks to everyone from

top CEOs to entrepreneurs about how they got through tough times, hurdles of sorts, by leaning

into wellness. My name's Emily Abadi, and today I'm chatting with Carolyn Gilstra. She's the

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Carolyn. To say that she's had an impressive career in journalism so far is an understatement.

From stints at men's health to cosmopolitan and woman's health and BuzzFeed, now she's the

editor-in-chief of self at Condé Nast, but her rise to the top wasn't exactly smooth sailing

all along. In her hurdle moment, the new mom shares that she found out she was pregnant

around the same time her entire career was about to make a major shift and how she managed

to keep it together despite abundant and sometimes overwhelming amounts of responsibility.

Also, constant morning sickness.

We talk about everything from the scary climate of the publishing industry to how she manages

to take time for herself. She tells me an insane story about how she almost died because of a tick bite.

We reflect on when our careers cross paths, and she offers up some essential insight on what it

truly means to be healthy. Yeah, this episode is loaded. I want to quickly thank Inc. for

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