Hello and welcome to Forever 35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves. I'm Dori Schaeffreier.

And I'm Elise Hugh, and we're just two friends who like to talk a lot about serums.

And today we have a very special guest, a guest who has been on Forever 35 before, actually several times.

Yes, but not in a minute. Not in a minute. A good friend of mine, an amazing author and wonderful person, Maureen Gou.

We took a bit of a deep dive into her experience with a stylist, which I found very aspirational.

I found it fascinating. I want somebody to come to my house and reorganize my closet and then also help me edit.

Like the editing is what I find really difficult.

The only clothes that I got rid of en masse were the clothes that I wore that were not maternity clothes, but just clothes that I wore while pregnant because I associated

them with pregnancy. And I was like, even though this is a really cute top or even though this is

really cute summer dress that you could wear while you were pregnant or not pregnant, I was still

like, I'm not going to wear this again. I don't want to wear it again. Like, this is of an age that I don't want to be a part of anymore.

So those are the only clothes that I was just like, goodbye when we moved back to America.

And I do think moving is always a great time to edit. I feel like we always get rid of a lot of stuff when we move.

But I don't think I'm going to move for a while

after my last one in 2022. We moved into this house. And now I can't even really leave my house because

if we left it, where would I live? Like, I wouldn't be able to afford. Like, if I left my house,

I don't think I would be able to afford a new place that's like even on par with where I'm where I would

be leaving. So I'm going to be here for a minute, which means no good chance to edit unless we're

really deliberate about it. But you did, right? Didn't you start? I feel like on this show,

on this very show, we talked about how you organized a bunch of your

things to like give away. I did, but this is like it's like a, it feels like it's like just a

constant ongoing process. What I will say that has been kind of good in like my age of austerity

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