Episode 378: Thirteen Years Later

The First Degree

Alexis Linkletter and Jac Vanek

True Crime, Society & Culture, News

4.5 • 10K Ratings

🗓️ 19 November 2025

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

It began as a familiar face from high school, someone she once trusted. But over thirteen years, that connection twisted into something far darker. No matter how many times he was arrested or how long he was behind bars, he always came back. On episode 378 of The First Degree, Jac and Lex profile a harrowing story of an obsession without limits, and reveal what happens when the system can’t stop it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	The first degree.
0:02.0	First degree.
0:03.0	First degree.
0:04.0	First degree.
0:05.0	First degree.
0:06.0	First degree.
0:07.0	The first degree.
0:08.0	You see it on the news.
0:10.0	You see it on the paper.
0:11.0	You see it on Facebook.
0:13.0	These things are supposed to happen in movies, not in real life.
0:16.0	Two days later, it's September 16th, I'm still in my apartment.
0:30.7	I'm on the phone with my mom.
0:33.7	We're just like chatting, catching up.
0:36.5	She's getting ready for dinner.
0:38.7	And we're on the phone and I hear the doorbell ring.
0:43.5	And this is just like that gut feeling where you know something's like some shit's about to go down like something's not right.
0:52.5	She was not expecting anyone. I said who's not right. She was not expecting anyone.
0:55.9	I said, who's coming over?
0:58.5	She said, I don't know.
1:00.5	As soon as there was just this long pause of silence,
1:04.7	and I already knew that he was at the front door.
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