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The First Degree

DEEP DIVE: BETTER CALL KRIS

The First Degree

Alexis Linkletter and Jac Vanek

True Crime, Society & Culture, News

4.510K Ratings

🗓️ 20 November 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Tin foil hats ON this week, people because there’s a lot to talk about. D4VD is finally named a suspect by authorities, Blake Lively’s team doing weird shit again, an adorable proposal turned into murder confession, and is Kris Jenner’s bday party the new Bohemian Grove? You tell us! 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon: patreon.com/thefirstdegree 📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree 🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee 👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

PIN

0:02.0

PICTILAWRIN

0:07.0

PICTILAW Welcome to the deep dive where the difference between a conspiracy and the truth is six months.

0:33.1

And honestly, you guys, tin foil hats on.

0:36.6

There's a lot to talk about today. Like, I don't know how all

0:39.8

of this shit happened in the last week. And we're not even talking about the main crazy stuff that

0:45.5

happened. No, you know what's so nuts? We didn't even touch on Jeffrey Epstein. I know because

0:50.8

there's too much. I was going to try because I saw some of the emails between

0:55.5

Sunni Praven and Jeffrey Epstein. And I'm like,

1:00.9

and Sunni is Woody Allen's daughter wife. Yes. Yes. So why? Why? Like, and listen, the

1:09.7

politics are a labyrinth and like that doesn't interest me as much because

1:15.4

it's not at all surprising no obviously it's horrible and crimes are had and pedophilia is disgusting

1:21.0

but i'm really interested in some of these other more obscure relationships he cultivated

1:26.3

and i feel like that sort of matches the tone of like the deep dive anyway. So we'll dig into some of that next week.

1:32.9

Yeah, we will. Because there's, I mean, it's, and you know, just to say, it's interesting how they

1:41.1

roll out shit, you know, because it's like, oh, we're going to roll out 20,000 pages of things.

1:46.1

So you, it's like, it's almost overwhelming, too overwhelming to even get into.

1:51.8

And it's like, that's not, that is by design.

1:54.1

We all know that.

1:55.0

Like there's no way that the powers of B are just giving us what we want. They're giving us what they want.

2:03.4

No, and this is the most sanitized stuff also. Yeah. But there is an outlet. I don't remember which.

2:09.6

I have it in my notes, but they made a searchable, like, database. So you could search by, like,

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